Author Topic: HTC's Fw-190s vs the "ideal" 190s (Read 1723 times)

1K3 · « **on:** February 02, 2005, 02:14:52 PM »

How would the "ideal" 190s compare to current HTC's 190s? (based on charts, perfs 'n quotes)

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #1 on:** February 02, 2005, 02:20:07 PM »

The ideal 190 would:

Turn like a Bf109G2.

Climb like a Bf109G10 or Spit 14.

Be faster on the deck than LA7 or Tempest.

Be armed with at least 3 centrally mounted 20mm cannon.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 02, 2005, 03:01:23 PM »

It will win the fight for you without you having to do any of the work

Dan/Slack

GScholz · « **Reply #3 on:** February 02, 2005, 03:44:31 PM »

JB73 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 02, 2005, 03:57:39 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz

thats just blasphemous and wrong

GScholz · « **Reply #5 on:** February 02, 2005, 04:00:39 PM »

straffo · « **Reply #6 on:** February 02, 2005, 04:36:30 PM »

Sorry JB73 it's a pretty accurate picture ... provided I4m in the cockpit

@GRUN : make that "3 centrally mounted 20mm cannon" 4 hispano in the nose and it will be perfect

Herr Milde · « **Reply #7 on:** February 03, 2005, 02:14:04 AM »

Gscholz

ROFLMAO

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #8 on:** February 03, 2005, 02:16:50 AM »

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Originally posted by straffo
Sorry JB73 it's a pretty accurate picture ... provided I4m in the cockpit

@GRUN : make that "3 centrally mounted 20mm cannon" 4 hispano in the nose and it will be perfect

THe La9 had 4 23mm in the nose and was better than out La7 in every way.

That thing would have been a monster.

straffo · « **Reply #9 on:** February 03, 2005, 02:27:16 AM »

btw if you are fan of the Egg plane
look at this :
http://modelbox.free.fr/dossiers/Eggs_P/index.html

Tony Williams · « **Reply #10 on:** February 03, 2005, 02:27:45 AM »

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Originally posted by straffo
@GRUN : make that "3 centrally mounted 20mm cannon" 4 hispano in the nose and it will be perfect

A fine opportunity for a nit-pick; the Hispano fired from an open bolt and couldn't be synchronised

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straffo · « **Reply #11 on:** February 03, 2005, 02:45:52 AM »

ok, let make a jet so

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #12 on:** February 03, 2005, 02:57:51 AM »

Tony, would it be posible to synchonize german electrically primed guns through a counterrotating prop?

Tilt · « **Reply #13 on:** February 03, 2005, 03:55:39 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
THe La9 had 4 23mm in the nose and was better than out La7 in every way.

That thing would have been a monster.

The main difference between the 9 and the 7 is the wing profile and weight distribution (9 being "statically" more nose heavy)

They both have identical engines as does the La11 which was in production prior to the 9. (dont ask)

The La11 also had wing profiles like the 9 and (like the 9) an all metal frame and skin. La11 & La 9 curves however seem to be very similar to those of the La7 only showing real improvement at medium altitude.

What is obvious is that the combined fire power of 4 x 23mm cannon clustered around the nose is awsome.

As we know an La9 flies today and an article by Hanna (probably today the most experienced classic warbirds pilots in terms of hours and types flown) compares it to both the Fury and the Bearcat where by he states it to be superior in terms of air to air combat capability. Hanna has flown all three types.

Given this it would seem that the la7 would aquit its self very well against these types too.

Tony Williams · « **Reply #14 on:** February 03, 2005, 07:48:00 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Tony, would it be posible to synchonize german electrically primed guns through a counterrotating prop?

I doubt it VERY much. The time gaps would be tiny, and when you take into consideration the need for a safety margin because the cartridge propellants don't always burn at precisely the same rate...

TW