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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2005, 07:47:29 PM »
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Straiga: Now you are just beeing a plane jerk.

Lets see: Straiga tells us our pito tube is incorect. Meen while he was backwards on the CV. Yep Im impressed with your knowledge straga, didn't even know that a pito tube dosn't work backwards. Or not being able to see the detail involved in making a pito tube work correctly and not read backwards.

Or claiming that MP dosn't change with rpm once again claiming we are wrong. When in fact if you go look at the manuals you will find we are spot on with most of the air craft.

Or the great claiming torque some how vanishes on twin engine planes. And they are effected by it differently then a single engine. When in fact there is no change in how torque is handled by a twin. The other forces Pfactor,slip stream, and accelerated slip steam are quite different on a twin.

Oh btw straiga did you know that the Pfactor with cirtical engines is in our model. Along with accelrated slip stream. The is one thing that I have  never been happy with and that is our modling of the BALL. Right now it functions like a slip string. So take a twin up, cut one engine center the ball, and you will see the plane flying sideways just like the real one would with a slip string centered on it's nose.

You allways seem stuck on the torque issue. Well quite simply its just probably our rigging of the planes that makes it feel different to you. You try find the incidence and washout setup on all the planes we model.

Consider this my last responce to you stragia, because discussing planes with you , is not very informative. And some of your statements are quite often incorect. Plus most of your post are in no way helpfull but always just snippy as in your last post.

And as far as you comment about HTC creating real auto pilots, I was a Electrical control engineer long before I ever started creating sims, have created a lot of real time control systems that function just like an auto pilots does, have done lots of robotics, auto mated machines, hi speed material handling systems,and all the safty that goes along with those designs. But AH is not one of those machines nore is it disgned to those standard. While you were playing with your stick, I was engineering the type of stuff you use every day.

Oh btw I'm also a pilot, and quite frankly the attitude you portray on this bbs is not what I belive a pilot attitude should be. Because a pilot who wants people to belives they are infalible is not someone I realy care to fly with.

Is AH perfect, of course not, but just because it isn't dosn't meen that it is not one of the most detailed made for it's purpose.

HiTech


"plane jerk"  lol

Pitot may[i/] work backwards, but not accurately, if the reverse slipstream air from the H-stab hits the Pitot drain hole just right

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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2005, 11:35:00 PM »
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Straiga: Now you are just beeing a plane jerk.

Lets see: Straiga tells us our pito tube is incorect. Meen while he was backwards on the CV. Yep Im impressed with your knowledge straga, didn't even know that a pito tube dosn't work backwards. Or not being able to see the detail involved in making a pito tube work correctly and not read backwards.

Or claiming that MP dosn't change with rpm once again claiming we are wrong. When in fact if you go look at the manuals you will find we are spot on with most of the air craft.

Or the great claiming torque some how vanishes on twin engine planes. And they are effected by it differently then a single engine. When in fact there is no change in how torque is handled by a twin. The other forces Pfactor,slip stream, and accelerated slip steam are quite different on a twin.

Oh btw straiga did you know that the Pfactor with cirtical engines is in our model. Along with accelrated slip stream. The is one thing that I have  never been happy with and that is our modling of the BALL. Right now it functions like a slip string. So take a twin up, cut one engine center the ball, and you will see the plane flying sideways just like the real one would with a slip string centered on it's nose.

You allways seem stuck on the torque issue. Well quite simply its just probably our rigging of the planes that makes it feel different to you. You try find the incidence and washout setup on all the planes we model.

Consider this my last responce to you stragia, because discussing planes with you , is not very informative. And some of your statements are quite often incorect. Plus most of your post are in no way helpfull but always just snippy as in your last post.

And as far as you comment about HTC creating real auto pilots, I was a Electrical control engineer long before I ever started creating sims, have created a lot of real time control systems that function just like an auto pilots does, have done lots of robotics, auto mated machines, hi speed material handling systems,and all the safty that goes along with those designs. But AH is not one of those machines nore is it disgned to those standard. While you were playing with your stick, I was engineering the type of stuff you use every day.

Oh btw I'm also a pilot, and quite frankly the attitude you portray on this bbs is not what I belive a pilot attitude should be. Because a pilot who wants people to belives they are infalible is not someone I realy care to fly with.

Is AH perfect, of course not, but just because it isn't dosn't meen that it is not one of the most detailed made for it's purpose.

HiTech


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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2005, 06:22:46 AM »
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pito


Pitot tube (Pi-tot)

Read the end at least!

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Or claiming that MP dosn't change with rpm once again claiming we are wrong. When in fact if you go look at the manuals you will find we are spot on with most of the air craft.


When you get some experience in high performance singles with superchargers at low altitude let me know so I can say I told you so.

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Or the great claiming torque some how vanishes on twin engine planes. And they are effected by it differently then a single engine. When in fact there is no change in how torque is handled by a twin. The other forces Pfactor,slip stream, and accelerated slip steam are quite different on a twin.


I have given all the paper work you will ever need to fly a twin and what it will do in the air. But the engine torque roll effect that you think will effect a twin, as same as a single engine it doesnt happen. Just dont breeze through the papers read it because you havent learned yet that torque is not mentioned once as force effecting a multi-engine and never will except in a single engine failure, but just a little not much. If you read correctly, on any of my post I said there is torque from the engines from a multi-engine but this torque does not effect the airframe like it effects single engine airplane. Dont get mad first before you read through things it will blind you to the true. I dare you to come fly with me in a high performance twin, so again I can show you your wrong. I will even endorce your log book so one day you to can get to fly a real airplane (A MULTI). I will have to help you fly it because your not going to be able to handle it with your experience no one does the first time.


 
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Oh btw straiga did you know that the Pfactor with cirtical engines is in our model. Along with accelrated slip stream. The is one thing that I have never been happy with and that is our modling of the BALL. Right now it functions like a slip string. So take a twin up, cut one engine center the ball, and you will see the plane flying sideways just like the real one would with a slip string centered on it's nose.


Well why dont you lets us know things like that about the ball modeling thats part of the problem we dont know what you feal is wrong and that you feal it needs work.

I flew one of your twins the other day, I killed an engine. I didnt need rudder, there was no yaw force hardly, no decrease in airspeed, no drag from the inop engine even though the prop was feathered, no change in VMC at any altitude or airspeed. Keep on working on it. Do you feal that AHII multi- modeling is wrong?

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Consider this my last responce to you stragia, because discussing planes with you , is not very informative. And some of your statements are quite often incorect. Plus most of your post are in no way helpfull but always just snippy as in your last post.


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And as far as you comment about HTC creating real auto pilots, I was a Electrical control engineer long before I ever started creating sims, have created a lot of real time control systems that function just like an auto pilots does, have done lots of robotics, auto mated machines, hi speed material handling systems,and all the safty that goes along with those designs. But AH is not one of those machines nore is it disgned to those standard. While you were playing with your stick, I was engineering the type of stuff you use every day.




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Oh btw I'm also a pilot, and quite frankly the attitude you portray on this bbs is not what I belive a pilot attitude should be. Because a pilot who wants people to belives they are infalible is not someone I realy care to fly with.




Im not right all the time and who said I was.


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Is AH perfect, of course not, but just because it isn't dosn't meen that it is not one of the most detailed made for it's purpose.


I have always said that I totaly enjoyed this game, and I understand what it takes to put something together like this. You have done outstanding and my hats of to you.

The problem when writting a post people infure something totally different from what your trying to say, its different face to face. Some take the inflection wrong, like Im mad or something. But you have to admit some people are clue less and they have no basis to form an opion. Im not right all the time but Im not one of these.

While I was playing with my stick as you so call it. I was also the owner of sevens unlimited. I designed and built a bill validator and cash box system for the IGT players edge plus slot machine. Which started out with kits to retrofit an existing slot machine. I designed and built the proto type and then manufactured this product with over 70 employees. I then sold the rights for royalties. It read bills from 1s to 100 dollar bill and being able to read counter fiets to an accuracy of 94%. I also had a token ring network system designed for the casinos and gaming boats to monitor slot machine payouts and soft and hard count currency at the press of a button. It was to accurate of a money count system this was when casinos wanted to skim the profits so they didnt want it at the time. In atlantic city (Trumps) casino, all the change personnel were no longer needed after installing my change machines on the casinos floor, the first ever change machine in a casino ever. I also designed the first cashless slot machine for gaming boats so they cant be high jacked at sea, it prints coupons for currency and down loads the network at the dock so people will get there money back it was a fiber optic.
My company at one time owned Microsoft software its was there software along with our design but we owned it because they didnt have a gaming liscence.
So when you go play the slots practically anywhere, go ahead a slip a counter fiet in the machine and see how good it works.

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Oh btw I'm also a pilot


So is my Dad, my Mom, my Brother, my two Grandfathers.

I guess being a plane jerk is better than a being computer jerk or any other jerk.

If this is the last time you want to respond thats fine. But you will read this post, and I ask you this one question. Why in a twin engine airplane when both props rotate to the right and when only the left engine is running in flight and if torque by the engine and prop is so appairent in your view then why doesnt the airplane roll to the left but only yaw to the right?

Straiga

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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2005, 10:29:21 AM »
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Pitot tube (Pi-tot)


Pronunciation: 'pE-"tO-, or pee-tow. Named after French physicist
Henri Pitot.

So, what's the name of your company and what is the Patent number assigned? I'd like to check it out.

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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2005, 12:31:36 PM »
He said he owned Sevens Unlimited.
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2005, 09:17:36 AM »
If he's that good with computers and stuff and, obviously, the greatest aviator since Doolittle... I can't wait for him to bring out his WW2 air combat game.





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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2005, 05:00:50 PM »
Straiga, Gotta say man, you come off as a major league conceited ********.


Ohh, one other question, who'd you do your LOA with for the 'stang?
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2005, 10:08:50 PM »
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My company at one time owned Microsoft software its was there software along with our design but we owned it because they didnt have a gaming liscence.
So when you go play the slots practically anywhere, go ahead a slip a counter fiet in the machine and see how good it works.
 


Are you saying that Seven's Unlimited owned Microsoft? Geez, someone should tell Bill Gates that his majority of stock must be counterfeit!

This guy's beginning to smell like last year's tuna.......


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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2005, 10:32:31 PM »
Pretty sure it says "owned microsoft software" not the company.

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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2005, 10:59:10 PM »
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Pretty sure it says "owned microsoft software" not the company.


Well that makes no sense, virtually everyone with a PC owns MS software (or at least a license). Does he mean that his company owned the code?

Regardless, I did a google search for Sevens Unlimited and turned up zippo. Tomorrow, I'll do a patent search too, because I am now curious.

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« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2005, 12:12:59 AM »
Widewing,

Search in Nevada, they are listed in the top 50 patent holders for the state, #40 I think with two patents for years 95-98.

No numbers listed though.

http://www.isc.hbs.edu/nevada_02-26-02.pdf

Scroll down to page 9.  

Got too tired of screwing around with messing with the patent office as they are so screwed up with the listings to find out who actually did it.
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« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2005, 09:48:50 AM »
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Got too tired of screwing around with messing with the patent office as they are so screwed up with the listings to find out who actually did it.


http://makeashorterlink.com/?A16C23D6A

That was just the first one that came up.

I used to run patent searches for a living. Of course, that should mean that my opinion is the only one that matters on the subject :)

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« Last Edit: February 08, 2005, 09:51:33 AM by Sikboy »
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« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2005, 02:32:09 PM »
Thanks Sikboy

Well, I figured out something else interesting regarding the above mentioned person.

If, according to his statements, he was an inventor for his company Sevens Unlimited, Inc., the names listed as the inventors with the US Patent Office, would be searchable in the FAA database of airmen.

Well, the first name listed has 4 listings, and of those, 3 are Private Pilots only, NOT multi engine cetified, and there are NO LOA's for a mustang.  The last is listed as a repairman only.

So, something is a bit fishy here, maybe our new Doolittle isn't really a pilot after all.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2005, 03:30:13 PM by Bodhi »
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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2005, 06:24:38 AM »
If your looking to find out if Im a pilot go for it, knock yourself out. Or you can wait and hear from golfer hes coming out to vegas to get his CFI. Im picking him up from the airport. He can tell you later. I would give you my certificate numbers but in light of 911 I dont think I should you could be a rag head.


I dont hold the patents to the bill validator system do you know how much time it takes to get a patent pending or a patent. I said I sold the rights for royalties, doesnt anybody read correctly I guess not. Golfer was correct about the microsoft software and  pointing out someone else who cant read.

Stanley Debrowski and Mark Sincox bought me out, they where my partners I was 33 at that time. Stanleys an old friend from germany, born in poland, and Mark and I grew up together in Vegas. Sevens Unlimited is no longer in business.

I have over 500 hours in the P-51D. I dont remember who gave me my LOA but he was some fed out of california. I dont remember half the feds who gave me a liscence.

My dads and his partner sold the airplane in Apr 2004. At this time I dont have the correct serial # but I will get them for you. The airplane was brought over from europe in around 96 or 97.

I have to laugh at you clowns, yes clowns. Just dig your little hearts away proving your points, it shows how little people are.
I could care less if you believe me or not. So get a life. Your the ones with a problem if you think Im in the same class as doolittle.
Its just sad really sad.

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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2005, 09:06:14 AM »
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 Just dig your little hearts away proving your points, it shows how little people are.


I can understand how pasting a name into a search engine can be intimidating and appear difficult. But once you get a little internet experience, you might understand how little effort it takes.

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