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Offline oboe

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« on: February 04, 2005, 09:56:00 AM »
I may be cynical and pessimistic about alot that's going on nowdays, but I do appreciate this Marine's fighting spirit.   I don't see anything wrong with his attitude - as long as he's not putting his men in unecessarily risky situations, condoning torture of prisoners, etc.     We're in a fight now, so we might as well have guys leading over there who don't shy away from getting the job done.     He's not any worse than Patton was, by a long shot.
   
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Lt. Gen. James Mattis, who commanded Marine expeditions in Afghanistan and Iraq, made the comments Tuesday during a panel discussion in San Diego, California.

"Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot," Mattis said, prompting laughter from some military members in the audience. "It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling.

"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis said. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."


He's in trouble now for these comments, and has to go to 'counseling'.

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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2005, 10:07:00 AM »
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I may be cynical and pessimistic about alot that's going on nowdays, but I do appreciate this Marine's fighting spirit.   I don't see anything wrong with his attitude - as long as he's not putting his men in unecessarily risky situations, condoning torture of prisoners, etc.     We're in a fight now, so we might as well have guys leading over there who don't shy away from getting the job done.     He's not any worse than Patton was, by a long shot.
   


He's in trouble now for these comments, and has to go to 'counseling'.


It's political.  He was stupid enough to say it publicly.    What does everyone think soldiers are trained to do?  Plant daisies?

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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2005, 10:08:43 AM »
what was wrong with what he said?

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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2005, 10:11:54 AM »
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what was wrong with what he said?

lazs


Its politically incorrect.  As military leader you are supposed to shun combat and do it because you have too.  Some would say hes looking for too much "fun" at the expense of the lives of his men.  Not knowing him, I have no opinion but it sounds like that is not the case.

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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2005, 10:12:05 AM »
Is he the new Dale Carnegie* ?







* the writer of "How to Win Friends and Influence People" for those not know :)

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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2005, 10:14:27 AM »
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Is he the new Dale Carnegie* ?







* the writer of "How to Win Friends and Influence People" for those not know :)


Heh, my Fraternity brothers got me that book in college.  I can't imagine why.

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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2005, 10:20:35 AM »
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Heh, my Fraternity brothers got me that book in college.  I can't imagine why.

hmmm...  I had a wobly chair it helped me solve this :)

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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2005, 10:21:58 AM »
much bs about nothing.

Just sounds like a Marine who likes being a Marine to me.

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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2005, 10:29:04 AM »
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much bs about nothing.

Just sounds like a Marine who likes being a Marine to me.



I agree.  Hell he gets paid to kill and right now business is booming.  Got to admire a man who loves his job.

  Lt. Gen. James Mattis.

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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2005, 10:38:59 AM »
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Heh, my Fraternity brothers got me that book in college.  I can't imagine why.


LOL

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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2005, 10:44:18 AM »
Thats why I'm not a soldier! I don't see fun in shooting people!

Actualy nor do a lot of the old WW2 vets I've spoken to for that matter. ( talked to many at last years DDay 60th anniversary in Normandy.

The only people I can think of who might have said that in WW2 were wearing double lightening flashes on their collar!

Sorry but I think the guy wasa bit of an idiot for saying it. Still a braver idiot than me I expect.

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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2005, 10:47:30 AM »
Good with some freespoken people that does´nt hide what they enjoy. And, well the enemy is the enemy.

Poor guy, the press and media is gonna skin him alive.

Damn the double standards of USA.

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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2005, 10:59:22 AM »
We need to worry when a MARINE General does not say something like that.

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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2005, 11:02:56 AM »
He should have realised he was not auditioning for the remake of "Full Metal Jacket". Even R. Lee Ermey has enough sense not to make statements like that when there are microphones around. Yeah, Patton made statements like that during a time of war. He also got fried by Eisenhower for making them.
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2005, 11:07:01 AM »
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He also got fried by Eisenhower for making them.


Was he dipped in batter first?