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Offline Howitzer

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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2005, 10:40:41 AM »
From what I've seen they seem pretty tough in AH2.  In AH1 I would never target just one bomber, I would always take at least 2 out of the formation with one pass.  Now in AH2, I have found a high speed pass from a high 6 with a steep angle works the best.  I normally fly fighters with 50cals, so concentration of fire is what does the damage.  If you spread those shots all over the wings, you may get one engine out, however if you look at the plane like a giant cross, aim for the middle and let er' rip!  Most of the time I will rip the poor thing right in half, then have enough speed to loop around for another pass.  

But I tell ya, I attacked a lancaster with a p47 with 8 50's last night from a straight 6, about d400..   I could not believe the number of sprites I saw, only to knock an aileron off.  Its all angle and concentration.  If you are looking to preserve ammo, just let um fly by :D

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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2005, 11:01:22 AM »
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Bomber fuselage strength is pure BS. Had a flight of B17s (3 of them) and I was in a yak9T (37mm gun)... Well it took more than 10 minutes and about 2 dozen passes to nail all 3.  


Did you have to land, reload, and try again?  :lol

I'm not sure where you are exaggerating. Did it really take you 20ish passess? Or do you really fire less than 2 shots in a burst?

Personally, I've only ever had to use 3 37mm rounds to get a buff down, however in an event one night my wingman claims to have put in around 7 on a Ju-88. Now, normally when someone reports something like that I would assume that they were firing both guns and hitting with the UBS, but Deke was an experienced "T" flyer, and was part of my Yak squad. So it was certainly curious.

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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2005, 11:19:57 AM »
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one night my wingman claims to have put in around 7 on a Ju-88. Now, normally when someone reports something like that I would assume that they were firing both guns and hitting with the UBS, but Deke was an experienced "T" flyer, and was part of my Yak squad. So it was certainly curious.

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I have experienced same, Ju88 vs Yak9T.

I saw a NOE ju88 formation fly over base i was at, so thought i would up a 9T for a laugh, i just went in dead behind him firing the spud gun only, put ALL my ammo into the formation, lots of hit sprites, doing gentle weaving behind the bombers to hit all 3 of them - expecting them to go down easily.  

One died, other 2 flew off with no visible damage when i ran outta spud gun and he smoked my oil.  I am not a bad aim, and i was point blank range.  I would have said i hit with at least 2/3 of my cannon rounds
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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2005, 12:27:34 PM »
I do know for a fact that sometimes net lag will loose hits.  

If you experience this (as I do), break up your shots (small squeezes instead of long steady bursts).

Net lag sucks, and sometimes it does impact gameplay - we just gotta work around it until HTC figures it out. :aok
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2005, 12:34:25 PM »
What krusty said,the buff model in the game is BS!

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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2005, 12:58:35 PM »
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I do know for a fact that sometimes net lag will loose hits.


You do not know this for a fact, and it is impossible for lag to loose hits. For a hit to be lossed you would have to be discoed.

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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2005, 01:19:51 PM »
On average... How many 20 mm's to a b-26, b-17, b-24 or lancasters fuselage should be necassary to destroy it? Once the film viewer is working again I will post the relevant films.

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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2005, 01:49:54 PM »
g00b,

You'd have to do some testing.

I recall J_A_B and I were testing some tail destruction with the Hispano, using the P-38 for controlability purposes.


From 50 yards a Lancaster's tail took 17 hits to remove and a B-17G's took, IIRC, 24 hits.

As a comparison, a Mosquito's took 3, a Bf110G-2 or P-51D took 2.
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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2005, 02:57:59 PM »
I found a nice soft spot on the B24s.  Come in above about a 45 degree angle and aim for just behind the cockpit windows and they pop like a balloon.

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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2005, 02:59:25 PM »
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You do not know this for a fact, and it is impossible for lag to loose hits. For a hit to be lossed you would have to be discoed.

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Isn't it possible to lose packets when using UDP or is UDP used only for receiving on the client end?

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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2005, 03:50:24 PM »
We do not transmit hit packets by udp.

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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2005, 04:06:21 PM »
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You do not know this for a fact, and it is impossible for lag to loose hits. For a hit to be lossed you would have to be discoed.

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That is interesting, I was not aware of that. I was under the impression (probably from a trainer) that lost packets were lost packets, and if a lost packet had the data where you scored your hits, you were just out of luck. However you want to say it, I understood the trainer (don't remember who) to say that lag could cost you hits. Thank you for the clarification.
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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2005, 04:15:49 PM »
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We do not transmit hit packets by udp.

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Just out of curiosity and I anderstand you may not want to answer that, is it then two connections?  A UDP broadcast/multicast for stuff that reliability is not important but speed is, like position updates for example and a second TCP connection for the important things like bulet hits etc.  

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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2005, 05:29:52 PM »
correct dedalos,and a 3rd udp for voice

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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2005, 06:00:00 PM »
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I found a nice soft spot on the B24s.  Come in above about a 45 degree angle and aim for just behind the cockpit windows and they pop like a balloon.


thats cos the cannon round blows up behind the pilot....making a red mess in the cockpit ;)
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