To be a gentlemen

[Wolfala]

Maybe I am preaching to the choir, so for those of you who this does not apply to you can move onto another post. And this is not so much a gripe as it is an observation.

For the most part - i'd say better then 75 % of those who play politeness and honor are concepts that we can grasp and maybe even sometimes live by.

I can't tell you how many times when you either get a victory or are the victory, and have sent a - u just hear dead space. Again, maybe it is me - and quite possibly the demographic has changed to include a public that is not open to the idea of giving respect or having it given.

So I think - as a point of note it is important especially for the old hands to educate the new guys on proper etiquette and what is respectful and what is not.

It would be a small victory - but you never know. The person who's being educated might learn something about himself and treating others with respect and that reflects better on him not only in AH, but in how he lives life.

My 2 cents.



Wolfala

[megadud]

if i get killed in a furball..NO SALUTE

if i get killed in a 1 vs 1..then ya get the "S"

megadud

[SFCHONDO]

I know how and even experienced at least 40 from the Knits one nite. All you have to do is take a 262 to pork troops. Get pinged by Ack, freak out and auger infront of them. Amazing how respectful they are to ya on CH 200. It was a truely amazing site to see. God I love this Game....LOL....Thanks Knits for showing your Love after my Great display of flying ability....I Laughed for an hour after that one.

[Urchin]

Sorry, I'm not buying it.  

You fight a good fight, win or lose you can get a out of me.  That is respect.  I respect you for trying.  

You come into a 3-4-5+ on 1 for an easy cherrypick and expect to get a " Amazing kill man, superb flying", you need to dislodge your head from your ass.  

Note Wolf, this isn't directed at you, unless you usually do the above.

Just playing the "respect" game doesn't cut it, in my opinion.

[Wolfala]

Well, i don't define blasting buff's from 2.5k with my 38's rockets are cherrying - but all things being equal, was not proposing a 1 size fits all criteria for a salute either.

[SFCHONDO]

I don't think Wofly meant throw out a when ya get cherry picked while out numbered. I think he meant more during an even fight. Now if I get ganged and die and the guy killing me me. I will him back if I see it. I take it as he was ing me for trying with the odds against me. I agree I probably wouldn't give the first in that situation, making the cherry picker think he is all wonderful for jumping me. Sure he did his job in killing me, which is the part of the game. Kill the enemy.

Anyway I think you know what I am trying to say. Over all I think he is just saying in a general sense he would like to see more respect in the game as a whole. Instead of when someone kills another (no matter 1 v 1 or ganged) the guy dieing starts calling the victor all kinds of childish names. OK ya got ganged or Cherry picked, it's part of the game. No, you don't need to them for it. One also doesn't have to throw fits on 200 and call others names either. I think that is what he is trying to say. Atleast I think it is.

[Kweassa]

Hondo..

 about that avatar of yours...


 My mind grows numb everytime you post something and I have to read it...

[SFCHONDO]

She is a Cutie...isn't she.  

[rod367th]

Some don't tune 200  so a salute on 200 not ansewered  could be due to this.



 I for 1 don't believe in giving Salutes unless really were deserving. And Saluteing a man you shot down can be sometimes taken wrong way.



  Example if i'm in Bombers and a enemy makes great attacks and gets 2 or all 3 ( fester only one to get all 3 alone at high alt) then I'l salute. But to have 2 or 3 guys came st8 up 6 blasting away and get all 3 while dying I would not salute or return a salute. I wouldn't salute a suicider getting a cv or if on same team wouldn't give a wtg.  



 My own opinion Is if you give a salute everytime you kill or get killed they become pointless. I'll salute Ghosth, Dadrabit, Fbjoker, Fester, Shane, dmdcoach, GHI, busher, Fraiz and few others based on thier sportsmanship and or contributions to game.  

I've had 4 guys come in HO me all 4 and 1 will salute. This is not a salute to show in kind .






 So final point is I'll salute but when I think its right time place not because someone else saluted first........................ .................

[mechanic]

i dont think any one was suggesting that one should salute even if they dont mean it.

salute who and what you like.

[Delirium]

Wolfala, we had a little 'discussion' sometime last week... its frustration on my part. Not losing or winning but seeing the general decline of the community in here where many could care less about history and are more into the gaming the game.

First and foremost the general play in the arenas has gotten worse. Ten guys attacking one undefended base, while ten guys from the other team attack another undefended field a couple sectors away.

Lastly, ACM isn't one high speed pass, HO, and haul ass.

[Tarmac]

Don't forget that a lot of people squelch 200 because of all the mouth feces.  They might not even get your salute.  I've sent 's for my squaddies before because they just don't see them.

[Shane]

Originally posted by Delirium
Lastly, ACM isn't one high speed pass, HO, and haul ass.

OPHAs!!!!!

One Pass, Haul Ass!!




not only do some squelch (or rather *not* tune, since 200 isn't any default channel) 200, but some sqeulch ch 1 and ch 6 as well.

[Nwbie]

Oh, I give the one finger salute a lot, just doesn't show up in the text bar

Actually just kidding, I rarely if ever get po'd, I know my limitations, I don't take it seriously enuff, I get jumped a lot cuz I'm usually typing smartazz comments to squadies and countrymen with a sense of humor as sick as mine
I play this game, cuz to me it is a game, if it ever got that serious for me, I would be looking for another game, it is a relaxation fun time for me....shut up Jackal .....(cut him off b-4 the smartazz comment could come in )
If I get kilt by someone, I will type on 200 - gk -
If it is a known good stick - I will type - bastage
Thats cuz if I knew he was around I would have been avoiding the area like the plague..lol




NwBie

[TexMurphy]

Respect is to NOT rub in your kills.

Salute the looser of a fight if it was a damn good one... but dont rub in overwhelming victories... dont rub it in when you owned someone...

Beeing a gentleman is an attitude you dont put it on with a salute and then take it off... Its your attitude not single actions that determins if your a gentleman or not..

Actions can be tought. Do this do that. But that doesnt mean crap.

To raise a gentleman you have to coach/mentor attitude. If a person with the wrong attitude is thought a few actions it doesnt help to make him a gentleman. His attitude is still wrong and he will still act as a pooptwit in the next situation which he hasnt been thought how to act in.

Even a trained chimp can learn to type .s Delirium (no pun intended Deli just example) but does that make him a gentleman?

Most people that salute in game do it like trained chimps which results in them insulting the enemy. This is very unfortunate. Saluting is a great way to show respect to a pilot that beat you. NOTE to a pilot that beat YOU.

Beeing humble in victory is just as important, if not more important, then beeing humble in defeat.

Tex