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Offline GRUNHERZ

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A monster nightfighter/destroyer design...
« on: February 07, 2005, 04:02:26 AM »
Imagine being in a bomber and facing this:

Speed of Me262.

4 30mm cannon each firing 1200 mine rounds a minute.

56 internally mounted 55mm R4M rockets each capable of destroying a heavy bomber by itself..

A rear gunner with 20mm cannons of his own to shoot at you too.




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Neat design...

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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2005, 09:08:59 AM »
Spaceship One with guns?
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2005, 09:14:50 AM »
would have been neat had they built it, but one round from a 7.62 aa gun on a panzer would have taken it out.
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Re: A monster nightfighter/destroyer design...
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2005, 09:23:31 AM »
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Imagine being in a bomber and facing this:

Speed of Me262.

4 30mm cannon each firing 1200 mine rounds a minute.

56 internally mounted 55mm R4M rockets each capable of destroying a heavy bomber by itself..

A rear gunner with 20mm cannons of his own to shoot at you too.



Neat design...


Not a design, a PROPOSAL that apparently never even generated a mockup or windtunnel model.  In other words, it ranks right up there in practicality with the sonic cannon and the two-stage V2 design with pilot.

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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2005, 01:29:54 PM »
May've been a design PROPOSAL...


BUT - comma...I bet ya no one thought up of using bleed air to heat the wings for de-icing upto that point.

Eh?

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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2005, 05:16:35 PM »
I think they would have had to move the rocket launchers, and maybe the guns as well. If not the engines will ingest a lot of smoke, which is dangerous.
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2005, 05:20:24 PM »
yup, they would have been flaming out the engines constantly. Like the F86 did when they tried to add cannons outside the intakes.

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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2005, 05:54:16 PM »
That thing just looks too cool to have worked out :cool:


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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2005, 06:23:01 PM »
front section upto the wings looks like a mig15

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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2005, 06:36:40 PM »
Curiously, Blohn & Voss was very active in the last months of the war, not only with drawings, but also with real prototypes.

Take a look at this:

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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2005, 10:07:00 PM »
Yea the engines would have eaten smoke, but they seemed to figure that out i  the MiG 9 and the F86D.

But who cares, its a cool design. :)

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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2005, 04:18:27 AM »
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Curiously, Blohn & Voss was very active in the last months of the war, not only with drawings, but also with real prototypes.

 


That's something I had noticed too. I wonder why a Sea plane firm became so active?

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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2005, 10:18:43 AM »
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Yea the engines would have eaten smoke, but they seemed to figure that out i  the MiG 9 and the F86D.

But who cares, its a cool design. :)

Oh I aggree. Its very cool but all those R4Ms going off in the intake duct are going to stop the engine. They were not ever going to deliver that aircraft armed in that way.
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2005, 10:57:44 AM »
The rockets are arranged around the outside perimiter of the intake duct. I dont think they are in the airflow for the engine. Also notoce there seem to be shafts from the back of the rocket tubes leading to the outside of the plane - maybe this is where the rocket exhaust went.

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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2005, 11:53:10 AM »
Um ... the airflow for the engine is quite a lot wider than the intake itself. All the guns would probably have to be moved further back on the fuselage, and the rockets out on the wings.
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