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Offline Toad

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« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2005, 02:43:05 PM »
England has plenty of small game. The big difference is historically your game belongs to a particular person.

Here in the States, wild game belongs to "the people".

So, over the years, hunting pretty much became a rich man's sport in England. Here, it's available to anyone with ~$20 for a license.
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« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2005, 03:01:43 PM »
I like seafood - fresh caught shellfish and all that - crab, mussels, prawns, langouste, oysters - kind of difficult to catch with a gun. :lol Besides, I don't live by the coast. So...

Your right ,you don't need a gun to bag seafood....anyway Dynamite works much better in shallow water. More effective than shooting 'em one at a time.

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« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2005, 03:17:43 PM »
And $2k for the club membership.



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« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2005, 05:14:24 PM »
Yeah Lazs, I have noticed a lot of on the clip ammo for sale.  Some for even less for less rounds of ammo.  The trick is some of it is corrosive.  You always got to catch that word when you're buying ammo.

I'm willing to put corrosive ammo through my nagants, but through my garand?
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« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2005, 05:36:02 PM »
Black powder is corrosive to barrels.  Best way to clean one is with hot water and Ivory liquid soap.  Barrel should be so hot you can't grab it.  Use a potholder. bucket and half inch stick dowel as a ramrod .  Clean it as best you can and finish up with Remington gun oil in the spray can.


It's impossible to clean it where there's no residue.  There will always be a rust colored patch no matter how many times you clean it.




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« Reply #50 on: February 09, 2005, 05:58:19 PM »
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« Reply #51 on: February 09, 2005, 05:58:25 PM »
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Yeah Lazs, I have noticed a lot of on the clip ammo for sale.  Some for even less for less rounds of ammo.  The trick is some of it is corrosive.  You always got to catch that word when you're buying ammo.

I'm willing to put corrosive ammo through my nagants, but through my garand?


I'm currently going through a case of corrosive Korean surplus. At first I was verrrry leery of the stuff, but I've since learned how to properly neutralize the chemicals with ammonia or "GI Bore Solvent" prior to a normal cleaning. Also, there were a couple of lot numbers imported that were notorious for erratic powder charges and in some cases catastrophic overpressures, but they've been identified and taken off the market. I did receive one case of ammo that has what appears to be water/ moisture damage and haven't fired the stuff. Buyer beware.

Oh yeah...don't forget to treat the op-rod and housing as well.
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« Reply #52 on: February 09, 2005, 06:01:14 PM »
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It's impossible to clean it where there's no residue.  There will always be a rust colored patch no matter how many times you clean it.


I'm new to black powder, but I've been told the product called "Bore Butter" can act as a pretty good conditioner and barrier when used before shooting and after cleaning. I don't have rust in my barrel, but I had a rust problem in the lock and around the nipple. Are the percussion caps corrosive, too?

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« Reply #53 on: February 09, 2005, 07:00:11 PM »
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« Reply #54 on: February 09, 2005, 07:29:55 PM »
i tried bore butter but it probably doesn't make any difference.  It does have protective qualities.  Three-in-one is the best oil for cleaning rifles, it gets most of the residue out.  You can clean your rifle using just that if you're lazy.  But hot water and Ivory soap is the standard.




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« Reply #55 on: February 09, 2005, 08:03:13 PM »
hahahah Zulu
 You just can't help yourself you keep coming back. No one cares what you think. Get over it.

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« Reply #56 on: February 09, 2005, 08:11:46 PM »
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Yeah Lazs, I have noticed a lot of on the clip ammo for sale.  Some for even less for less rounds of ammo.  The trick is some of it is corrosive.  You always got to catch that word when you're buying ammo.

I'm willing to put corrosive ammo through my nagants, but through my garand?


Most of the stuff now available is NON corrosive.  I just bought 6 sealed spam cans of 1959 Lake City AP, in clips and on bandoleers.  Opened one of them up just to see the ammo. It's beautiful, black tipped, nice and shiny.

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« Reply #57 on: February 10, 2005, 12:55:30 AM »
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i tried bore butter but it probably doesn't make any difference.  

Maybe it's because you need more butter knife training? ;)

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« Reply #58 on: February 10, 2005, 01:41:09 AM »
Please continue without me, gun  fetishisists. I think I have managed to draw out the gun totin redneck crowd. Be my guest and continue with this dull little homage to the one thing that makes your society such a F**** up dangerous place.

I'll leave you wonderfull people to continue. Think I made my point.

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« Reply #59 on: February 10, 2005, 02:57:17 AM »
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Maybe it's because you need more butter knife training? ;)


Absolutely Beet1e.  If I knew what a butter knife was.  Did learn how to throw a tomahawk at a mountain man rendevous one time, and at that same rendevous, my friend beat the Mississippi state champion at the tomahawk  throwing contest and won two turkeys.  That was his first time and he learned it in a couple hours.  It was quite an upset but I couldn't have done it.  The shooting competition was pretty stiff.  Those guys were good.  



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