Author Topic: Damage Model (Read 1192 times)

RTO · « **Reply #30 on:** February 08, 2005, 08:59:44 AM »

there are issues from my perspective on damage modeling with both GV's and A/C.

GV's - tgr's one day get killed 1 shot from panz or 1 drop of
a bomb
- other days tgr's withstand multiple rounds from multiple
panzs or 10K bombs on it's head.
- the flak that takes 6 rounds from a tgr to kill
- the deflection shots off m3's from panzs and tgr's
- and on and on and on

A/C - my favorite here is the one in a HO situation where I start shooting @800 out get great hits and recieve no hits then get rammed and I get the "You have been killed" "someone shot you down" messages.

- my second favorite is when attacking buffs shooting at it's rear gun getting great strikes and yet it fires away and a few pings there goes the engine, pilot wound, half a wing etc...

- i'd say my third favorite is shooting an A6M for example and then watch it fly around for 5 minutes still dogfighting while it's a ball of flames

- then there is the kill shooter, I always seem to be more lethal with 1 or 2 pings on a friendly plane than if I had hit an NME in the same manner.

- the list goes on but for bordom sake I'll stop

RLTW

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 08, 2005, 09:12:46 AM »

The location of shots and angles in GV's is just as important as in an Aircraft.

You don't fire a single .50 randomly on an airplane and expect a kill. You put it right into the guy's forehead.

Janov · « **Reply #32 on:** February 09, 2005, 03:35:14 AM »

Matrix,

if i remember correctly, killshooter doubles the amount of damage done...or was that some other game?

Litjan

Tilt · « **Reply #33 on:** February 09, 2005, 05:18:38 AM »

I would like to be able to damage payload or kill troops sitting in a C47 or an M3/LVT2............

I would like to be able to kill the tail or ball gunner in a buff such that even access to the position was disabled...............

I would like to be able to kill the bombadier or smash up the bomb sight..................

If bullets have entered the cockpit I would like there to be instrument damage.................

I would like to be able to kill the commander if caught in the cupola, to restrict cupola view and reduce reload time...........

In other words I would like there to be personnel/instrument and payload consequences .

But I would really like GV's with track damage not to fall thru ground terrain objects and sit there totally invulnerable to enemy munitions whilst able to fire out of the same.................

Schutt · « **Reply #34 on:** February 09, 2005, 05:54:15 AM »

I think the damage and collision model should be secret.

Especially as of why it is happening.

If someone is not happy with what gets hit from where or how much damage a plane gets its ok to complain.

But dont ask for or expect a damage or collision model explanation. What HiTec said is already enogh to make cheating easier. Any more explanation as of why the damage is tanken game wise or how is really more than i hope will be disclosed.

RTO · « **Reply #35 on:** February 09, 2005, 09:18:43 AM »

Janov,
I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.

lasersailor184
As for the firing of a single .50 cal round, well I used to fire the .50cal all the time in the army as I'm sure more people that play this game have too. The destructive power of a single .50 is awesome and if you don't think so then go watch "Glacier Girl" when they took a single .50cal gun strapped it to a snowmobile and fired 1 round into a 50 gallon drum. Oh yeah armor piercing rounds did tear it up. But then cyclic rate of fire shooting at a buff certainly does not equate to a SINGLE round expecting a kill, rather multiple rounds shredding what it hits and what it hits in turn becomes more projectiles to do damage. One shot one kill??? I didn't see any sniper rifles in the hangar.

RLTW

DmdJJ · « **Reply #36 on:** February 09, 2005, 08:58:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Matrix
The destructive power of a single .50 is awesome and if you don't think so then go watch "Glacier Girl" when they took a single .50cal gun strapped it to a snowmobile and fired 1 round into a 50 gallon drum. [/B]

Not trying to be an ass, but that was the 20mm they fired at the drum. How do I know? My boss was there, Pat Epps.

RTO · « **Reply #37 on:** February 10, 2005, 10:57:42 AM »

dmd u are correct.

[The first items to be brought up were the four .50 cal. machine guns and the 20mm cannon. Surprisingly enough they were all in operating condition. They actually fired the cannon, blowing up a barrel. ] -taken from article

I stand corrected it was the 20mm fired. TY

If you would pass on to Pat epps He has no idea what his contributions in the whole Glacier Girl story mean to me and my son and others. An amazing story words cannot describe appropriately and a Thank You seems to small of a way to express our gratitude.

RLTW

DmdJJ · « **Reply #38 on:** February 10, 2005, 07:21:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Matrix
If you would pass on to Pat epps He has no idea what his contributions in the whole Glacier Girl story mean to me and my son and others. An amazing story words cannot describe appropriately and a Thank You seems to small of a way to express our gratitude.

Consider it done.
Epps doesn't like to talk much about those days. There is bad blood between him and Shoftner Epps and Taylor spent millions finding and getting that bird out of the ice. Roy showed up towards the end of the project and invested money to help finish it. Well he didn't get a quick enough return for his money, and the law suits started. Epps and Taylor got the shaft, and Roy took all the credit. Sad how things worked out. I could write a book about those days and how much stress it caused all of us. It was cool to see the aircraft in our hanger after it was pulled from the ice, sad to watch it end up in Kentucky, and just dang glad it all came to an end.