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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2005, 02:19:36 AM »
Dred,
I believe the idea is that they don't intend to RTB. They usually keep making passes at the barracks and ord until they are either killed by ack or a defender. They will drop, extend just enough to turn around and return, even with a defender right on their 6. They ignore the defender and the ack,  and bore in on the barracks, knowing full well they will die if they fly like that.

That's why it's a suicide porker. Not that they intentionally fly into the ground.

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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2005, 08:55:20 AM »
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Dred,
I believe the idea is that they don't intend to RTB. They usually keep making passes at the barracks and ord until they are either killed by ack or a defender. They will drop, extend just enough to turn around and return, even with a defender right on their 6. They ignore the defender and the ack,  and bore in on the barracks, knowing full well they will die if they fly like that.

That's why it's a suicide porker. Not that they intentionally fly into the ground.


Much truth here, IMO.

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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2005, 12:23:54 PM »
It fits. (Baka in japanese means "stupid")

Edit: uhu... wasn't talkin' about you Culero :)
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2005, 12:59:09 PM »
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It fits. (Baka in japanese means "stupid")

Edit: uhu... wasn't talkin' about you Culero :)

Baka does mean "idiot" or "fool" in Japanese, but is wasn't the Japanese name for it, it was the US codename for it.

The Japanese name for it was "Ohka" which means Cherry Blossom.  Cherry blossoms can have certain overtones in Japanese culture that made it somewhat appropriate.
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2005, 02:28:06 PM »
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Dred,
I believe the idea is that they don't intend to RTB. They usually keep making passes at the barracks and ord until they are either killed by ack or a defender. They will drop, extend just enough to turn around and return, even with a defender right on their 6. They ignore the defender and the ack,  and bore in on the barracks, knowing full well they will die if they fly like that.

That's why it's a suicide porker. Not that they intentionally fly into the ground.


Well that also sums up the attitude of the furballers with the exeption of the porking part.
Up fly around till you get killed by ack. another plane or crash into the ground and start all over again.

How many people up expecting to come back and be able to land?
Now how many manage to do that the majority of their flights?
 I'd be willing to bet the overwhelming "majority" (to use my own dirty word) dont.
Unless your a horde warrior its pretty safe to say that most flights are suicidal to begin with..

Now if they hit and then ran they woiuld be pork and run dweebs "afraid to fight"
But since they stick around to fight. And thus risk getting killed by one of the afore mentioned ways they are suiciders.

Hell sometimes its fun to hit a base and watch 5 of the 6 planes up chase you around like the keystone cops just to see how long you can last before someone finally gets you LOL
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2005, 03:44:58 PM »
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Does it seem odd that the pilot would have armor underneath his bellybutton given his mission?


why did kamkazi pilots wear helments?:rolleyes:

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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2005, 05:59:21 PM »
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It fits. (Baka in japanese means "stupid")

Edit: uhu... wasn't talkin' about you Culero :)


No worries, I'm a "wear the shoe that fits" believer ;)

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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2005, 08:29:23 AM »
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Up fly around till you get killed by ack. another plane or crash into the ground and start all over again.

Now if they hit and then ran they woiuld be pork and run dweebs "afraid to fight"

But since they stick around to fight. And thus risk getting killed by one of the afore mentioned ways they are suiciders.

Hell sometimes its fun to hit a base and watch 5 of the 6 planes up chase you around like the keystone cops just to see how long you can last before someone finally gets you LOL


Yea.. they stick around and "fight" buildings.  

The "suicide" part of suicide porker isn't kamikazi'ing into the ground, it was described very aptly above.  

Don't get me wrong, I don't think there is anything in the world wrong with bombing buildings, but I think it takes a real eunuch to pick battling buildings over other people.

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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2005, 09:38:24 AM »
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The "suicide" part of suicide porker isn't kamikazi'ing into the ground, it was described very aptly above.  



I think Dred's point went SWOOOSH over your head.  You call guys who "stick around and fight buildings" SUICIDE PORKERS.

I say a uber-fighter-jock-stone-killer guy who lands about 1/3 of the time (no matter that he has a 4-to-1 k/d) is a SUICIDE FURBALLER.

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« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2005, 09:59:51 AM »
No, it didn't go over my head.  We just view the game differently.  

He thinks the game is about battling through a horde of enemies to kill their buildings... I think the game is about battling the horde of enemies.

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« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2005, 10:36:54 AM »
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Does it seem odd that the pilot would have armor underneath his bellybutton given his mission?


Not really. They wanted him to live long enough to retain control and hit his target. The damned thing is useless if it does not hit its target.
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« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2005, 10:39:39 AM »
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Scrap, that's an AWESOME idea! :)

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« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2005, 08:47:40 AM »
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Yea.. they stick around and "fight" buildings.  

The "suicide" part of suicide porker isn't kamikazi'ing into the ground, it was described very aptly above.  

Don't get me wrong, I don't think there is anything in the world wrong with bombing buildings, but I think it takes a real eunuch to pick battling buildings over other people.


Noooo they stick around and fight the planes that are in the area.
Least thats what I did.

But there are times when it is more desireable to destroy the buildings then to fight the planes to prevent the hording and capture of your own base.

Doesnt take any more or less skill then it does the hordewarriors to overwhelm a base with 5-1 odds
Or the Fuballers to cherrypick their way to stardom which is where most kills in furballs come anyway.
the trick in a furball isnt in getting kills. its in keeping from getting killed
« Last Edit: February 16, 2005, 09:10:25 AM by DREDIOCK »
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« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2005, 09:07:10 AM »
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No, it didn't go over my head.  We just view the game differently.  

He thinks the game is about battling through a horde of enemies to kill their buildings... I think the game is about battling the horde of enemies.


Wrong again. I rarely pork bases anymore. and when I do hit bases Im usually only after the barracks and sometimes ammo.

You have no idea what I think the game is about.
But to enlighten you I think the game is about whatever the individual player wants it to be about.

For me its about whatever I feel like doing at any given time.
Sometimes its about base capture, sometimes its about furballing or finding that small scale fight where two small in numbers but relitively even sides duke it out in the air.(probably my favorite)
Sometimes its about base defence
Sometimes its about GVing.
Sometimes its about battling the hordewarriors and/or porking the bases that effect the hordewarriors.
Other times its hunting down and killing specific pilots

As a good friend of mine likes to put it
"My interests are very eclectic and subject to change without notice"

For me the game is "about" a great many things all depending on what I feel like doing at any given moment.

And I think thats what the game is about.
And one of the things that makes the game great is that you have so many choices of what you want to do it has something for just about anyone.
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« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2005, 10:26:34 AM »
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As a good friend of mine likes to put it
"My interests are very eclectic and subject to change without notice"

For me the game is "about" a great many things all depending on what I feel like doing at any given moment.

And I think thats what the game is about.
And one of the things that makes the game great is that you have so many choices of what you want to do it has something for just about anyone.



Very well said.