Who's Aiming Nukes at Whom?

[GRUNHERZ]

This fool talks as if he thinks people will forget how to make nuclear weapons just because the cold war is over..

Nuclear power was an inveitable discovery for us when we set upon the technology path, it is never going away, ever. Nuclear weapons will be here, either in reality or as a clear technical possibility forever asa long as human civilization goes on.

[Zulu7]

We still know how to ride horses too, and make armour and fight with swords. We don't use them though because we now have stuff that is more effective.

Who is the fool? The one who is stuck in the past wedded to old outdated doctrine? or the one who moves with the technology and the time.

?huh?

[GRUNHERZ]

I thought you might resort to such a ridiculous analogy, it deserves no particular response beyond asking you consider the difference between weapons able to wipe out whole cities and kill millions in seconds  and something like horse mounted infantry.

Or tell me, exactly what use are your superior smart conventinal bombs of a non-nuclear armed state after your nuclear armed enemy has wiped out all your cities, factories, farms etc  with a massive nuclear attack during a real all out war on the scale of ww2...

Hmmm...

[Zulu7]

If hes going to do that you are dead anyway. First strike and its all over whether you have nukes  or not.


So why worry?

take out his nukes with precision weapons. attack his electronic communications. etc etc before hand. Nukes are usualy a last resort weapon. Take out such things before you get there!

I dunno I ust think they are old redundant and what the hell use is a weapon that makes the bit of the planet they hit uninhabitable for years. Total madness.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Zulu7
If hes going to do that you are dead anyway. First strike and its all over whether you have nukes  or not.


So why worry?

take out his nukes with precision weapons. attack his electronic communications. etc etc before hand. Nukes are usualy a last resort weapon. Take out such things before you get there!

I dunno I ust think they are old redundant and what the hell use is a weapon that makes the bit of the planet they hit uninhabitable for years. Total madness.

Take a look at your first strike scenario.

Missles can be detected and confirmed before they impact and a nuclear response can be sent before launch sites are destroyed.  This makes the idea of a first strike quite unlikely since the response is nearly guarnteed.

Now if your enemy has no nukes and only smart bombs, well then, you get the point.

Nclear weapons are dispersed, it woult take very long time to knock out all launch sites with smart bombs. Durinmg that time there are plenty of opportnities to launch the weapons.

The weapons are not outdated and they are not redundant.

Look, all this goes back to my basic point.  

NUCLEAR WEAPONS WILL EXIST FROM TRINITY TO ETERNITY.

Just because the cold war standoff is over doers not mean perople will forget  how to make nukes, it will be with us for all human civilization. We cant just imagine them not existing any more and we cant just forget them. If your potential enemy has the capability and knowlege to maske weapons whicgh wipe your cities and kill millions of citizens, yiou will damn well want that too as a counterbalance.  And renember, this knowlege will never go away, it will be here for eternity.  Think of it this way -  we have just gotten through the first 60 years of this knowlege - and there is still centuries and centuries and centuries of time.  Nukes are still very young and they and the knowlege and physics to make them are not going away, ever...

[Zulu7]

Sadly true maybe. But that doesn't later the fact that we should try to get rid of em!