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Offline dedalos

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« on: February 14, 2005, 10:08:59 AM »
K, after getting the new drivers for my FX5500, overclocking the card and bringing the object sizes down to 128 (does not look bad at all), I can maintain 20fps in a furbal.  More over, even when the FPS drops, the game still runs smothly and I can now hit as I could a while back.

The question I have is that when I checked my CPU usage, it was at 100% with AH usin 98%.  Its a 1.8G cpu.  Is that not enough or are there any conf seting I need to check?
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2005, 11:31:11 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised.  1.8 is kind of slow.
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2005, 12:12:26 PM »
1.8 Should be pleanty. AH will always take all the cpu that is available no mater how fast your cpu is.

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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2005, 12:33:34 PM »
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1.8 Should be pleanty. AH will always take all the cpu that is available no mater how fast your cpu is.

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Thank you,

Thats what I was thinking too.  After lowering resolutions, overclocking, performance settings, etc I see an improvement of 5 maybe 10 fps (but smother running).  I guess what I am saying is I can go back to 1024 x 768 x 512 and push the sliders up in the graphics set up, and only suffer a loss of 5 to 10 fps until I enter an area with lots of fighters.

It seems that the video card is not the limiting factor.  Is there anything else I can check?

FX5500 overclocked 256M
Omega drivers
256 RAM
1.8G CPU

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Current fps around 30.  Range 22 to 35
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2005, 01:15:14 PM »
Dedalos: up your ram from the measley 256Mb to 1.0Gb.  I would say that is your biggest issue.

I run AH on an ATI 9700Pro with Omega drivers on a 1.8GHz Athlon CPU (2500+), with 1.0Gb ram and consistently get 50-80fps with 1024 textures...
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2005, 01:17:23 PM »
You might be doing a lot of mem swaping with 512 texture size and only 256meg of mem.

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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2005, 01:41:12 PM »
I noticed a big difference in frame rates when I upgraded from 512MB to 1GB.  I'm sure if you only have 256MB, upgrading would help alot.

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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2005, 01:51:12 PM »
I was afraid of that.  More mem is out of the question since it will cost more to upgrade mem than to buy a new computer  (its a Gateway, don't ask).  So, until I convince the wife that she needs a new computer :D (and I will), are there any tricks?  Defrag the disk, faster HD controler with biger buffers, anything?
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2005, 04:05:35 PM »
Maybe I missed it but is there a tuning thread?  I'm running a pretty nice system and it still hogs down as if the game is sucking up more resources than I would think it should for what I see.  I'm showing only 40 out of 128 megs video and 700 megs out of 1 gig of ram with things cranked mostly up but FPS drop to the teens from maxed at 60 frequently and if I drop things down I don't notice much improvement.  The game seems to chug 100 percent of the 3800 cpu no matter what the FPS is.  Any pointers on what really affects FPS?  


It would be really nice if the game itself would give up stuff at certain performance cutpoints.  For example, if FPS drops below 25 then graphic detail drops down etc..  Not sure if this is viable but it sure would be a help.

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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2005, 04:25:07 PM »
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I was afraid of that.  More mem is out of the question since it will cost more to upgrade mem than to buy a new computer  (its a Gateway, don't ask).  So, until I convince the wife that she needs a new computer :D (and I will), are there any tricks?  Defrag the disk, faster HD controler with biger buffers, anything?


Not sure why you think that, go to newegg or tigerdirect.  Heck, just last week Tiger Direct had a 1 day special 39.99 for 512MB of RAM (1 stick, limit 5 on the order I think).  Name brand too.  Might not be hot, O'Cable, low-latency stuff, but what you need is more of it, not necessarily faster.  Newegg.com offers daily specials every day, I'm sure you could at the very least double your RAM to 512 fairly cheaply.

You made mention you have a Gateway.........so?  Require ECC RAM?  Registered RAM?  ECC and Registered?    Newegg still has sticks of RAM cheap.  I dont know what bus speed you have.  With a 1.8Ghz processor I'm guessing you are using PC 2700, maybe the older PC 2100.  60 bucks will buy you another 256MB stick of RAM.  Have 2 x 128MB now and no open slots?  Buy a 512MB stick for 90 bucks.  Thats still nowhere near the cost of a computer.  

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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2005, 12:59:45 PM »
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I was afraid of that.  More mem is out of the question since it will cost more to upgrade mem than to buy a new computer  (its a Gateway, don't ask).  So, until I convince the wife that she needs a new computer :D (and I will), are there any tricks?  Defrag the disk, faster HD controler with biger buffers, anything?


you should have no problem adding ram...what specific system to you have???

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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2005, 01:32:04 PM »
lol, I will give it an other try.  I don;t remember the models and numbers but last time I checked, on other 256 was going for $260.    I'll check model types and post them.

Thanx
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2005, 02:37:55 PM »
Dedalos - I had a gateway computer.  All the memory are just standard sticks - you're not forced to buy Gateway memory.

What kind of Gateway computer is it (model)?  I can look it up for you and recommend something (it's what I do in my real life job - I'm an IT Customer Service Manager)
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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2005, 03:44:17 PM »
Its a Little more involved then adding tons of ram.  I'm no expert for sure, but what i do know from years of experience and pissing off money on parts that now sit in a file cabnet, waiting to be collecter items.  :)  

 Its more like the type ram your using (66mhz, 100mhz or 400mhz ddr duel channel etc.).  Your mother board type (bus size, type ram support, video slots pci or agp 1x or 8x etc.) , your cpu ( how fast , bus size, how new , etc..),  sound card( type, brand, and the compatibilty ..)  Video card (not so much how new  it is or amount of ram it has) , but type ram , pci or agp, what settings the video card maker supplies you in display settings. Some have more then others, you should not have to "over clock" any video card if your computer parts jive.

The thing to remember is the games of today are becoming more and more demanding, online gaming as well as store bought games. You want decient graphics and more then Pong style games.    And if Ya want to GAME as a HOBBY,  you Must upgrade your tools to do so, and upgrade as a whole  .  

 Think of it like this,   (guy talk  :p ) a  stock 426 hemi motor is no where near as fast as a built 426 hemi, But you also have to  buy the correct matching parts for the built hemi or its just as slow or slower as a stock hemi.  ei.. big tunnel ram and two carbs without the cam and head work is just gunna slow you down and make for disappointment in the end.

So its all about what and how you mix the ingredients that makes for a good computer to get the performance your wanting.  Dont blame the game if you run 87 octane when you really need 104 racing fuel.  :)

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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2005, 07:46:23 AM »
OK happy people. Its using Rambus or simillar spelling, lol, memory
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