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Offline Howitzer

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« on: February 14, 2005, 03:51:58 PM »
I was flipping through the scores pages and I noticed that I really don't understand what the "Points" system is based on in each of the categories.  I suppose at the moment I was only looking at it in terms of fighter score.  It doesn't seem to be how many kills a player has...  Does it have something to do with the plane you get your kills in vs. the planes you kill?  And is that based on ENY values or something?  

Like I said, I was just curious.. anyone have any ideas?

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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2005, 04:05:42 PM »
they just *had* to be put there because without them the game would be.....




















well,













pointless.


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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2005, 04:22:50 PM »
The Points are damage points.  You're right, because you could shoot a plane, do .002 points of damage, he augers and you get the kill, and get less points than you would for pinging up a plane really good that gets away.

The ENY is a completely seperate system for computing up perk points earned.

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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2005, 04:32:49 PM »
It's quite simple really...Here is the Points formula....


Or if your using your computer it's even easier....
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2005, 06:14:25 PM »
It is basically a way to "even up" the scoring system.  

Generally, points are a function of time spent playing the game.  They also reward "flying to live" to a greater extent than the other categories do.  

There is a section on how the point system works floating somewhere around here, I thought it was in HTC's help file.

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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2005, 06:20:06 PM »
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It is basically a way to "even up" the scoring system.  

Generally, points are a function of time spent playing the game.  They also reward "flying to live" to a greater extent than the other categories do.  


How does it reward "flying to live" to a greater extent than kills/death?

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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2005, 06:46:04 PM »
From HTC's scoring page:  



Air Categories
Kills per Death = TotalKills / ((Discos * 0.5) + Bails + Captures + Deaths + 1)

Kills per Sortie = TotalKills / TotalTourSorties
Kills per Time = TotalKills / TotalTourSortieTime
Hit percentage = TotalTourBullet**** / TotalTourBulletsUsed
Air points = PlaneDamageScore + KillScore
Ground Categories
Damage per Death = TotalDamage / ((Discos * 0.5) + Bails + Captures + Deaths + 1)
Damage per Sortie = TotalDamage / TotalTourSorties
Bombing percentage =
(TotalTourBomb**** + TotalTourRocket**** + TotalTourTorpedo****) /
(TotalTourBombsUsed + TotalTourRocketsUsed + TotalTourTorpedosUsed)
Ground points =
(DamagePointsScoredOnObjectsTh isSortie * DeathMult) +
TotalTourDamagePointsScoredOn Objects +
(DestroyedPointsScoredOnObject sThisSortie * DeathMult) +
TotalTourDestroyedPointsScore dOnObjects
Field captures = FieldCapturesThisSortie + TotalTourFieldCaptures
 
TotalKills are just air-to-air kills for fighter missions, air-to-air + air-to-ground kills for all other mission types.
 
PlaneDamageScore =
(DamagePointsScoredOnEnemiesTh isSortie * DeathMult) +
TotalTourPlaneDamageScoredOnE nemies
 
KillScore =
((AirKillsThisSortie * 1.0) + (AirAssistsThisSortie * 0.25) +
(GroundKillsThisSortie * 1.0) + (GroundAssistsThisSortie * 0.25) * DeathMult) +
TotalTourKillScore
 
TotalDamage =
(DamagePointsScoredOnObjectsTh isSortie * DeathMult) +
TotalTourDamagePointsScoredOn Objects +
(DestroyedPointsScoredOnObject sThisSortie * DeathMult) +
TotalTourDestroyedPointsScore dOnObjects
 
Death Multipliers
 

 Landed
Discoed
Bailed
Ditched
Captured
Killed
Crashed
 1.0
0.25
0.5
0.75
0.4
0.25
0.25
 


Once you get past a certain K/D and K/S, you are pretty much on a flattish curve.  You can have a drastic improvement in either category for not much gain in "rank" in that category.  K/T is a little less stratified, but not much.  Hit % is much the same.. once you get past ~15% you can go all the way to 30% and maybe only pick up 10 "spots".

Figure two pilots, A & B.  

Pilot A has a K/D of 20 and is ranked 2nd, a K/S of 4 and is ranked 10th, a K/T of 12 k/h and is ranked 50th, a Hit % of 15% and is ranked 20th.  I'll cover points later.  Pilot A's "overall" rank will be the addition of all the "sub-ranks".

  So 2 + 10 + 50 +20 = 82.  So if you don't count the points category he has 82 "rank points" for lack of a better word.  

Pilot B has a K/D of 6 and is ranked 15th, a K/S of 5 and is ranked 4th, a K/T of 15 k/h and is ranked 2nd, and a hit % of 13% which is good for 65th.  

So Pilot B has 15 + 4 + 2 + 65 = 86 "rank points".

Pilot A would be 4 points ahead of Pilot B, and probably be 1 or 2 ranks higher in the fighter category.  

But now lets add in the points category.  Lets say Pilot A has only flown 5 sorties over the course of an hour and 40 minutes.  Pilot B has flown 200 sorties with lots and lots of time.  Pilot B would have many more points than Pilot A, and thus be ranked higher.  


Second case, lets say Pilot A and Pilot B both fly one sortie.  They both get 5 kills.  Pilot A lands, Pilot B runs out of gas and ditches (in friendly territory).  Overall K/D and K/S are the same, but the points (even if they literally did the exact same thing overwise, down to damaged planes and assists) would be 25% higher for Pilot A.  In this way, "flying to live" is rewarded.  

The way I look at it is you get 1X points for dying or crashing, ~2X for bailing or being captured (.4 for capture, close enough), 3X for ditching, and 4X for landing.

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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2005, 08:19:11 PM »
Am I th only one who looks through a thread just to see if Hondo has posted?  And then completely forgets what the thread is about?

Bizarre....

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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2005, 10:24:39 PM »
Thats why I try to put pics in my replies, because no one reads what I write anymore :)
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2005, 06:29:48 AM »
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Originally posted by Blue Mako
Am I th only one who looks through a thread just to see if Hondo has posted?  And then completely forgets what the thread is about?

Bizarre....


Yes, I certainly DO Ollie!

That GD little animated icon of his slays me!

You see,, last summer our good friends from Spain came to live with us in the states.  They have 2 daughters, ages 13 & 16.

Apparently, in their country, bathing suits are optional.

One morning preparing to go to the beach, the 16 year old, comes up to me out on the deck, and approaches me from behind.  She says (in a delightful Spanish intonation);

"RV? (not my real name).. Will this swimming costume be OK to wear to an American beach?"


(hell yeah!)

I turned to look into those dark Spanish eyes,, and there she stood,, hands clasped behind back, waggling shoulders back n' forthe,, looks JUST LIKE HONDOS FREAKN ICON..!!

Talk about being struck blind.
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Offline 1Klink

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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2005, 07:26:51 AM »
rv , u got some deepseated issuez!

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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2005, 09:41:06 AM »
RV, I gather you didn't say that to her parents. ;)
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2005, 05:53:10 AM »
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RV, I gather you didn't say that to her parents. ;)


BWahahahahaaa.. Saintaw!

I thought this topic had died,, but since you asked..  LMAO!

It ended lika' thisa'..

My blushing bride (of the past 27 years) came sauntering out onto the patio,, and looked at me like I was Eugene T. Pervis the pervert..  She told the girl that her swim suit would be fine,, sent her inside, and beat me about the head & shoulders with the BBQ spatula until I bled..

I ran, covering face, from wife's spatula attack..  She looked like Andre~ Agassi in forehand training..
I screamed;

"BUT! BUT! My dear, I did'nt do nothin!  I DIDN'T DO NUTHIN!!"

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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2005, 06:14:56 AM »
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and beat me about the head & shoulders with the BBQ spatula until I bled..


Women, instead of hammering the aggressor - in this case the 16 year old - they start picking on the poor victim. :D :lol :D

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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2005, 01:40:38 PM »
Am I th only one who looks through a thread just to see if Hondo has posted? And then completely forgets what the thread is about?

Nope.

Morphues used to make me smile too.