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Offline Urchin

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« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2005, 11:42:22 AM »
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Guppy, I know what you mean exactly.  I'll be engaged with one fighter, think I'm alone so I get low and slow, and out of nowhere here comes a stupid LA7 from my 12 o'clock, and I can't manuever.  So what do I do?  Lately... I know its sad, but I'll just HO um.  He is obviously going to shoot, he chose the angle, and I don't have enough power to make a move that ruins his shooting solution.  More times than not, it is a new guy, he'll start spraying from WAY far out, and you can most likely win the HO, and pick up your previous target.  

I'm not a fan of the HO, but sometimes...   when in Rome....



Well, that situation isn't unique to the El gay... it is just that they are faster than everything else.. so they get to you first.

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« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2005, 11:42:30 AM »
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1K3 you're wrong.

If the LA7 is gay what is the status of the P51, D9,G10 and so on ?

There is no reason to perk the LA7.

It's already almost perked as it's often the 1st plane killed in a furball.


Wouldn't bother me to see a light perk on all the above mentioned planes.

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« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2005, 11:49:42 AM »
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1K3 you're wrong.

If the LA7 is gay what is the status of the P51, D9,G10 and so on ?

There is no reason to perk the LA7.

It's already almost perked as it's often the 1st plane killed in a furball.


Almost makes you wonder how it consistantly carries a K/D of 1.25...

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« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2005, 11:55:48 AM »
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Almost makes you wonder how it consistantly carries a K/D of 1.25...


Because it can run after timid pilots and kill them when they are 'extending" either under a friendly plane umbrella or their field ack :)

It doesn't make this plane anything other than a "whinne generator" :)

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« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2005, 11:58:05 AM »
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Wouldn't bother me to see a light perk on all the above mentioned planes.

Zaphod


That would be good IMO, a lot of propositions like this were made in this BBS.
None look to please HTC dunno why :)

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« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2005, 12:00:30 PM »
Russian planes are fun to fight against. The La-7 maybe a plane for nubs but even so the fight is, 90% of the time, better then those Ami Hero Planes that just run and run and run...

Or suicide themselves against inanimate tool sheds...

If there are more Yaks and La-5FNs in the mix then that could mean more folks are taking to actual fighting humans rather then tool sheds.

More Spits, Yaks, Las etc are all good signs for those who like the fur. FM2s being the only real exception to the typical AMI long distance marathon runner.

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« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2005, 12:01:05 PM »
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Because it can run after timid pilots and kill them when they are 'extending" either under a friendly plane umbrella or their field ack :)

It doesn't make this plane anything other than a "whinne generator" :)


In case you weren't aware, a K/D of 1.25 means an La-7 generally kills 1.25 planes for every 1 death.  

I don't know about you, but I find being able to maintain a positive K/D when flown in a suicidal manner such as you described above is pretty impressive.

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« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2005, 12:05:34 PM »
My understanding is that the ASh-82 (previosly M-82) was a short cylinder version of the M-81 and that the M-81 was a (or a derivitive of a) 14 cylinder Wright R-2600.

The confusion with it being derived from a german engine may be that the ASh-82 is now being used to power the new Flugwerk Fw-190's.

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« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2005, 12:14:41 PM »
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In case you weren't aware, a K/D of 1.25 means an La-7 generally kills 1.25 planes for every 1 death.  

I don't know about you, but I find being able to maintain a positive K/D when flown in a suicidal manner such as you described above is pretty impressive.


It's certainly impressive but don't bother me.

Like Wotan said "Russian planes are fun to fight against" and it's all I want :)

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« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2005, 12:22:14 PM »
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"lol Ash82 is based on a straight and quick copy of the 190 radial engine (BMW 801) NOT American"

But, lol, like duh... The 801 itself was a plagerized version of the Wright R-2600.


I thought it was a licensed P&W Twin Wasp.

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« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2005, 12:23:56 PM »
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Wouldn't bother me to see a light perk on all the above mentioned planes.

Zaphod


Agreed. all those uber rides need a small perk.

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« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2005, 12:28:05 PM »
In the context of AH, there really aren't any "uber planes" other than the Spit and el Gay.  

And even those are merely better than any other plane at what they do.  

HT probably won't ever perk any more planes, it isn't likely that any new plane will hit the C-Hogs 22% usage level that warranted a perk.  Sure, we've got 5-6 types making up 50% of the arena, but that is "variety".. and removing that would remove a large chunk of HTC's revenue.
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« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2005, 12:35:45 PM »
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lol Ash82 is based on a straight and quick copy of the 190 radial engine (BMW 801) NOT American

the only powerfull engine the US had is the prat 'n whitney


It is not true. The predecessor of  Ash82 (former M-82) was R-1820-F3  "Cyclone" license on whish was bought by Soviet Union in 1933. Cyclone was produced in Soviet Union under the name M-25, but  Shevzov developed this engine, and a lot of modification were produced (M-62, M-63, M-70, M-71 and finally M-82). A lot of that modifications were taken from new modifications of Cyclone. For example, M-82 was analog of R-2600 Cyclone (I don't know did Soviet Union bought the license on this engine or just stole it). First Ash-82 was produced in spring, 1940.

BMW 801 was descendant of Pratt and Whitney radials engine produced under license in Germany on 1930's. This engine was released to production in December 1939, so it is just impossible that russians could make the first M-82 in spring 1940 if would be copy of 801.
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« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2005, 12:41:04 PM »
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As for the Soviet Hordes... I'm guilty as charged. I think that I've only flown 3 sorties so far this tour that weren't in Yak-9Ts, or Il-2s. One was a 109G10 (Don't care to fight at the 10k base in a Yak lol), one was in a Ki-84 (after reading the thread here on it) and the last was in a B-24 (Trying to play nice with others on a base capture).

I wish I could say that "I don't care what everyone thinks" but for some really odd reason, I do. While in AW I was always a fan of the La-5, and wished that the Yak-9D wasn't so much of a joke, I could never quite get myself to fly the La-7 with any sort of regularity (in 3 years I have 2 kills, and 3 deaths lol... maybe the only person in game who doesn't have a positive K/D in the thing heh). Mostly because of the stigma that goes with it.

Either way though, I find the Yak-9U to be more than enough plane to compete in the MA. What I like most about it, is the ability to move the fight away from an enemy field. I can usually entice a plane or two to follow me out of the furball for some individualized loving. I'm certainly no killer, but I give as well as I get most of the time. Of course, I often chase Cherry pickers in a furball, which is pretty much cherry picking in and of itself, so I'm not really all that classy lol.

I've been flying the Yak-9T more lately just because it's funny to watch planes break in half from a single ping at 400 yards.  

-Sik


Can I get a AMEN?!?!?!  :aok

I try to rotate through the lineup and get some exposure to everything, but the Yak9U is my favorite scrapper.  The La-5 is nice too, but it just doesnt handle like the Yak.  In AW we called the 9D the "ETO Zero".  

The 109F-4 and the F4U-1D are also fun.

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« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2005, 12:47:12 PM »
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Well, that situation isn't unique to the El gay... it is just that they are faster than everything else.. so they get to you first.


Urchin,

You are very correct with this statement.  The reason I said what I did was, if it is an LA7, I know that it is most likely a newer pilot or someone who doesn't know how to fly anything else, and therefore I'll look for that HO attempt.  Maybe if Shane is in the area I'd probably not anticipate it, but you figure if that LA7 knew what he was doing he would have waited on his BnZ for a shot on my high 6 instead of co-alt 12.   :)   Then again, the situation also sorta dictates it, because you figure the guy guppy was on is screaming bloody murder on the range channel asking for help, so the LA7 probably chose the fastest route to intercept Guppy, and won't hesitate with at HO shot in order to save his friend.  

The ride I'm most impressed with is the tempest... that plane has a mediocre chunk of everything good there is about a plane.  Nice ride.... glad its perked too!