syria?

[AWMac]

Originally posted by Thrawn
And what exact punishment is your government metting out?

We're gonna hit Syria with hundreds of Mounties in canoes with beavers....oh wait.... that's the Canucks...

[lada]

thats funny that some people are about to judge after hearing story from one source and from one side of the table


Here is something to think about.:

Sirian army occupy Lebanon since end of WW2.  Official Sirian reason for that occupation is to keep peace in that area, because of "possible" civli war.

Sirian consider themself  generous friend of Lebanon, who pay for Lebanese peace.
(thats funny, their official story remind me someone)

They also claim that they are not interesting in wasting money in Lebanon and they had dialog with Mr. Hariri about their army on Leanese territory.

So lets have a look on situation.
Big mouth in US doesnt like Siria
Siria isnt friend of big mouth and doesnt sell cheap oil ( so they have big black minu in their profile)
Sirian king have very strong possition in Siria. ( coup is impossible)
Siria is blamed by US and Israel, that they support Hisbalah. ( no evidence has been given )
Israel voilate Sirian territory, to check military scope.
Now its clear that Siria doesnt have powerful military, coz it ordering new SAMs from Kreml.

So .... Who benefit from assasination of Mr. Hariri ?

Mr. Hariri were supposed to be absolut winner in next election. He wanted to bring stability and get rid of Sirian occupation ( "peace keeping process" ).
If he were able to done it, there would be one problem less in the region. But somebody would be dammaged or somebody could lose some form of "profit" in case that he win.

Its clear, that he were killed by some islamistic fanatic, so it doesnt point on anyone.  We already know that all countries around the world use terrorist group to make dirty work for them.

Some people here (this BBS)  think that Siria should be attacked now, coz its next full of terrorists.
However those people have information only from one player. That player prepared them for sutch situation and they react exactly how he need them to react, because he need free hands. So if there will be war on Siria, no matter why , what will that bring ?

Instead of possible withdrawal of Sirian troops from Lebanon it will bring/keep US troops in ME.  Israel already attacked some Sirian harbour past week, so there are no doubts, that Israel is willing to provide support.
So we should have another destabilized Iraq like country.

So what does it mean for players. If Siria will risk something like assasinate mr. Hriri, they could give nice chance to their enmy to rape their arse. However there is no rational reason, why they should do that, coz it cause double minus for them. They will not withdraw and they will get arse kicked.

Ofcourse, there can be OR. Somebody can say, that Siria benefit from occupation of Lebanese. If somebody think so, please post some material, coz i dont have sutch links right now. (and i will not google for them coz i wanna go home asap)

What doest it means for US is quite clear. Interesting oportunity to escalate preasure on another non-proamerican country in region. What benefits does US have from that is another question. But they would like to get rid of Siria and its quite clear official attitude.



F U All im going home.. sweet home..
correction of typos will follow

[lada]

Originally posted by Raider179
Syria and Iran allies? Alright its time to do something. lol

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4270859.stm


Iran has vowed to back Syria against "challenges and threats" as both countries face strong US pressure.
"We are ready to help Syria on all grounds to confront threats," Iranian Vice-President Mohammad Reza Aref said after meeting Syrian PM Naji al-Otari.

What i like most about British and American media is this.:

Both countries should focus on meeting their international obligations, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.

If you will find this theme at CNN, you will find, that Iran is developing nuclear weapons.

Even when Mrs. Rice were in europe, she used "international obligations" instead of domestical "Secret nuclear weapons".
I think it was main reason, why people didnt laugh at her that much.

She was kinda funny scared girl.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by lada
What i like most about British and American media is this.:



If you will find this theme at CNN, you will find, that Iran is developing nuclear weapons.

Even when Mrs. Rice were in europe, she used "international obligations" instead of domestical "Secret nuclear weapons".
I think it was main reason, why people didnt laugh at her that much.

She was kinda funny scared girl.

Man you are hard to understand. She didnt use secret nuclear weapons because they have not yet made nukes. Their international obligations are to shut down the reactor and not to try to make them.

As for syrian oil. I hope you are kidding...

Syria's oil industry faces many challenges in the years to come. Oil output and production continues to decline due to technological problems and depletion of oil reserves. Since peaking at 590,000 barrels per day (bbl/d) in 1996, Syria's oil output has fallen, to an estimated 535,000 bbl/d in 2003, as older fields, especially the large Jebisseh field discovered in 1968, have reached maturity. Syrian oil production is expected to continue its decline over the next several years, while consumption rises, leading to a reduction in Syrian net oil exports. If this trend continues, it is feared that Syria could become a net oil importer within a decade. Export levels, which had been temporarily buoyed by illegal imports from Iraq, fell sharply after the invasion of Iraq in March 2003.


See the part about being a "NET IMPORTER" in 10 years.

Also I saw a lot of pissed off people at his funeral calling for syria to get the F(#% out of their country.

None of that linking hezbollah to syria matters to me. They partner up with Iran and I say we should bomb them both back a couple thousand years. Let em try to reinvent the wheel for awhile.

[lada]

Originally posted by Raider179
Man you are hard to understand. She didnt use secret nuclear weapons because they have not yet made nukes. Their international obligations are to shut down the reactor and not to try to make them.




None of that linking hezbollah to syria matters to me. They partner up with Iran and I say we should bomb them both back a couple thousand years. Let em try to reinvent the wheel for awhile.

yeeep my writing is not quite correct.. somebody already mentioned it.
Im trying to improve that.

Thx for comments about oil.


Iranian international obligation is NTP.
Problem is that Iran need nuclear power plants badly, they are lack of energy, whole region is lack of energy. The one who will have Nuclear power plant in the region first, will export it and make money.

But the problem is, that US ( whitch  lost credit among people all around the world) object, that Iran is developing nuclear weapons. Since there is not any single piece of evidence, nobody take it that seriously, specialy after Inteligence show around iraq.

So ... all american media are full of " Iran= secren nuclear weapons= Bomb emreka & israel"

In europe.... Mrs. Rice just object, that Iran should obey to international obligation. However Mrs. Rice isnt able to prove that Iran is not.

So there is diference how your politics speak for you and how they speak for rest of the world.


And rest of the your post... yes... i bet you are educated in international affairs and you have been in Iran, so you probably know what is need. Or am i wrong and you just watch TV and listen "the only one truthful media in the world" ?

Tell me how did you manage to have sutch attitude ?

[Raider179]

Originally posted by lada
yeeep my writing is not quite correct.. somebody already mentioned it.
Im trying to improve that.

Thx for comments about oil.


Iranian international obligation is NTP.
Problem is that Iran need nuclear power plants badly, they are lack of energy, whole region is lack of energy. The one who will have Nuclear power plant in the region first, will export it and make money.

But the problem is, that US ( whitch  lost credit among people all around the world) object, that Iran is developing nuclear weapons. Since there is not any single piece of evidence, nobody take it that seriously, specialy after Inteligence show around iraq.

So ... all american media are full of " Iran= secren nuclear weapons= Bomb emreka & israel"

In europe.... Mrs. Rice just object, that Iran should obey to international obligation. However Mrs. Rice isnt able to prove that Iran is not.

So there is diference how your politics speak for you and how they speak for rest of the world.


And rest of the your post... yes... i bet you are educated in international affairs and you have been in Iran, so you probably know what is need. Or am i wrong and you just watch TV and listen "the only one truthful media in the world" ?

Tell me how did you manage to have sutch attitude ?

1) Iran has been offered light water reactors and they declined. So electricity is obviously not their goal.

2) here is the proof that they are "not living up to international obligation"

In January 2004 Tehran acknowledged that it was continuing to assemble additional centrifuges. This appeared to violated the the 31 October 2003 agreement -- brokered by France, Britain and Germany -- to suspend uranium enrichment activities.

On 12 February 2004 the International Atomic Energy Agency found designs for the advanced P2 centrifuge that should have been, but were not, mentioned in Iran's October 2003 declaration of its atomic program

On 18 June 2004 the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) adopted a resolution deploring Iran for not cooperating fully with nuclear inspectors and urging Iran to be more forthcoming

On 24 June 2004 Iran informed Britain, France and Germany that it would resume making uranium centrifuge parts, ending the October 2003 agreement with the three countries.

on the other thing I am a senior in college with a major in History, and a double minor in anthropology and philosophy.

I have never been to Antartica either but I still know its cold as hell down there. You dont have to go somewhere to get an idea of what its like.

[jEEZY]

Originally posted by Raider179
I am a senior in college with a major in History, and a double minor in anthropology and philosophy.

.

good luck with that ....

btw where you goin? and wht you wanna do ?

[Raider179]

Kennesaw State University...Northwest of Atlanta....

Not sure yet. lol

[Nilsen]

what a great thread! thank cod i didnīt miss it.

[Monk]

Some people here (this BBS) think that Siria should be attacked now, coz its next full of terrorists.

Should have attacked 20 years ago.

thats funny that some people are about to judge after hearing story from one source and from one side of the table

here is the otherside.

Syrian motives.

Lada, have you ever been to Lebanon?

[airguard]

its all about ying and yang, dont worry it will even up sooner or later.

[Yeager]

"and in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love.......you make."

[Maverick]

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[Raider179]

I will admit it would have been a good play by Isreal but I doubt they would risk it considering they are as close to peace over there as they are gonna get. Could be rogue mossad but I still think its syria. Whether their intelligence services did it with the blessing of the government is going to be the question.  There has also been a possible Al-qaida link mentioned being as this guy was in cahoots with the saudi's. I am sure blame will start getting placed real soon. Then this thread can rock and roll. lol

[lada]

Originally posted by Monk

Syrian motives.

Lada, have you ever been to Lebanon? [/B]

No not yet. But i have been on other countries where people were supposed to eat children and i saw something a bit diferent.

This link is interesting article but its still from same side of table.

However thanks for link.

edit: what a surrprised server is located in the USA. .. so its just another source from the same side.