Author Topic: Mossie Guns (Read 1120 times)

TBolt A-10 · « **on:** February 16, 2005, 02:50:57 AM »

i've been flying the Mossie most of the time this month - with the max loadout on guns and ord - and i gotta ask:
is it just me, or are the Mossie guns slooooooow?

i wish i had a dollar for every a/c that has slipped through my line of fire w/out much of a scratch.

Wolfala · « **Reply #1 on:** February 16, 2005, 07:21:24 AM »

Slow...no...but it is upsetting when you hit with the 303's thinking they are 50cal and its nothing more then a prolonged death by a 1000 papercuts. Unless you remember to hit the secondary fire and actually use the 20mm...

Done it too many times.

Wolf

thrila · « **Reply #2 on:** February 16, 2005, 07:29:42 AM »

Mossie guns are great!:) I think wolfala may be correct, you sure you are using the 20mm and not the .303s?

TBolt A-10 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 16, 2005, 09:15:09 AM »

O, I'm sure.

I always fire with both guns and consider myself bingo ammo when I'm out of cannons. Like Wolfala said, those MG's are USELESS.

I just thought, perhaps, that the rate of fire on the cannons were a little slow.

Karnak · « **Reply #4 on:** February 16, 2005, 11:08:39 AM »

I've killed a 110 and an La-7 with the .303s after I was out of 20mm, but that's all.

You may be missing as the Mossie produces a narrow, but intense, stream of fire unlike wing mounted guns that spray it out in almost a fan. I have killed to many aircraft in extremely brief crossing shots to see the Mossie's guns as slow. Frankly, it is my experience that it'll get kills in crossing shots that most fighters would only get a few hits in.

One thing though, I only fire the 20mm.

Sikboy · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2005, 11:26:56 AM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
I've killed a 110 and an La-7 with the .303s after I was out of 20mm, but that's all.

I killed a hog last night with a Single UBS. I was just trying to get him off a countryman, and while I was RTB I got the kill message on him. I guess he augered lol.

-Sik

Masherbrum · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2005, 11:09:27 PM »

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Originally posted by TBolt A-10
O, I'm sure. I always fire with both guns and consider myself bingo ammo when I'm out of cannons. Like Wolfala said, those MG's are USELESS.

I just thought, perhaps, that the rate of fire on the cannons were a little slow.

.303's are EXTREMELY effective agains wings, they'll sieve the fuselage shots all night. Mossie is one of the most UNDERRATED fighters in the MA.

Karaya

Urchin · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2005, 11:12:14 PM »

No, it is rated just about right.

Slow, can't manuever out of its own way, best guns package in the game.

Course, the Tiffie has the same gun package spread out a little more, so it is easier to hit with, and it is much much faster.

kevykev56 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 17, 2005, 01:23:16 AM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
No, it is rated just about right.

Slow, can't manuever out of its own way, best guns package in the game.

Course, the Tiffie has the same gun package spread out a little more, so it is easier to hit with, and it is much much faster.

Your opinion that the Mossie has a better gun package than the 110?

I never fly it much but do know that anytime I get near one the guns seem to rip me apart as they pass by. I think lots of that has to do with the caliber of pilots that fly them and not as much the aircraft itself.

TBolt A-10 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2005, 01:33:51 AM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
No, it is rated just about right.

Slow, can't manuever out of its own way, best guns package in the game.

Course, the Tiffie has the same gun package spread out a little more, so it is easier to hit with, and it is much much faster.

Slow?!? I've been able to outrun everything except an Lgay-7 so far (got lucky a couple times). I consider the Mossie to be pretty damn fast.

Yea, it's not the most maneuverable of "fighters." lol. Got into a knife fight with an Lgay-7 that I couldn't ourtrun.

Actually was close to getting around on his six when I found myself in a dead flat spin. Couldn't get out of it. I floated down like a feather.

Still having issues with the guns. What convergence are you guys using? I'm set at about 450 feet.

TexMurphy · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2005, 01:37:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
....gun package spread out a little more, so it is easier to hit with, and it is much much faster.

Interesting.

I personally find it much easier to aim nose mounted guns then wing mounted. But then again Ive not flown nose mounted in quite some time.

Need to compare that again now that my aim is a bit better then before.

Tex

Wolfala · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2005, 01:43:18 AM »

Convergence is infinity - just like any centerline fire aircraft. U just worry about gravity and the firehose will do the rest.

TBolt A-10 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2005, 01:53:25 AM »

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Originally posted by Wolfala
Convergence is infinity - just like any centerline fire aircraft. U just worry about gravity and the firehose will do the rest.

cc. will try that again. thanks, Wolfala.

thrila · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2005, 06:31:28 AM »

I love the mossie:) It's been my main ride for quite some time.

The mossie can initially outrun the la7 in a dive, however unless you want to shed control surfaces you'll ease off the throttle, then the la7 will quickly catch you. In level flight most planes will outrun the mossie with ease, the mossie is just a tad faster than the spits and n1ks so i would label the mossie as slow.

I would rate the guns above the 110 too, it can kill at distances and at angles the 110 doesn't stand a chance at. I've never really used the .303s so i can't say about their effectiveness. But with 4 hispanos i don't see the need of them. The mossie only needs the briefest of opportunities to get a kill, kills most other planes would find impossible.

Scherf · « **Reply #14 on:** February 17, 2005, 08:05:57 AM »

Hmm. If you're a crack shot like thrila, all you have to do is reach out and touch someone in the mossie and they'll go down.

If you're gunnery sux like mine, you'll see fewer hits because of the concentrated cone of fire (see above). No room for error. You can still slice off wings though, very satisfying.

I haven't been using the .303s as I'm trying to improve gunnery with the 20mms - trying to be sure that the hit sprites I'm seeing are from the Hispanos. One I am l33t and uber, I'll use the .303s again - the more the merrier.