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Offline RTStuka

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« on: February 16, 2005, 06:11:02 PM »
I always thought, if I was elected president what would I do as far as helping bring back America the great. I mean what would my ideas and platform be to solving all the issues we face. After hours of thought this is what I have come up with.


The first thing I would do is close many of the foreign military bases around the world. Then i would build numerous new military bases here in the U.S.. Many of them would be placed along the U.S. mexico border to help with the illegal immigration issue. Plus as an added bonus the construction of all these bases would lead to job creation in numerous areas. This would aslo lead to better economic situations where these bases were built. As for the lack of response time by the U.S. military I would say lets beef up the Navy. By doing this I believe that you could aslo stimulate job growth by the need for new Navy ships that need to be constructed.

Now on to the home front, obviously the war on drug is a huge issue. Here are my thoughts, drugs are illegal now so yes if you use drugs and get caught then you get in trouble. But I ask why are they illegal, I mean how much do we spend on trying to eliminate something that we will never be able to stop. Yes you keep up progarms such as D.A.R.E. and other Anti Drug messeges but by leagalizing them and Taxing the living shat out of them we can start to make a profit.

I also think we need to take a look at big business. This is the heart and sole that this country has been based on and we can not eliminate it but we do need to keep them in check so that they do not run the country.

The next issue is the Government, I mean as a people we need to make sure that this government does not become more than what it was meant for. The united states is supposed to be run by people who are the voice for the rest but I feel that we are moving in the direction of a government that is operating under the assumption that they are the only voice and that the people do not matter. The biggest solution I see to this issue is removing the connection between money and government.

Well these are just a few of my starting platforms in my run for president in 2020. So what does everyone think, you gonna vote for me. :D

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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2005, 06:26:50 PM »
I can foresee you will never be a president or even a congress member :D

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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2005, 06:34:02 PM »
Dammit. :D

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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2005, 06:49:56 PM »
"The first thing I would do is close many of the foreign military bases around the world"

Thus eliminating any influence you will have on world affairs (good or bad)

You'd be like france. All talk,  no teeth, always afraid to lose and forced to bribe others so they dont see you in a bad light.

"Then i would build numerous new military bases here in the U.S.. Many of them would be placed along the U.S. mexico border to help with the illegal immigration issue. Plus as an added bonus the construction of all these bases would lead to job creation in numerous areas. This would aslo lead to better economic situations where these bases were built."

Thus alienating a foreign government with which you have big economic interests with; the jobs you create will most likely be manned by the mexicans that live along the border (since civilian jobs will be mostly manual labor).

"As for the lack of response time by the U.S. military I would say lets beef up the Navy. By doing this I believe that you could aslo stimulate job growth by the need for new Navy ships that need to be constructed."

Ships are in service for many many decades, you would only accomplish economic benefits until the ships are built, then the cow dries up. Response time? you still need to move troops from the mainland to whatever hot spot in the world.. so no matter what it will be a month or more 'response time'. Not every nation is accessible by sea or in range of a carrier group either btw.

"But I ask why are they illegal, I mean how much do we spend on trying to eliminate something that we will never be able to stop. Yes you keep up progarms such as D.A.R.E. and other Anti Drug messeges but by leagalizing them and Taxing the living shat out of them we can start to make a profit. "

Legalizing them with a heavy tax only makes the illegal market sell them cheaper without tax... and you'd still be stuck with the effects drugs have on society...only that it will affect a whole lotta more people.

"The biggest solution I see to this issue is removing the connection between money and government."

Youve been watching too much star trek. Geek ;)

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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2005, 06:54:52 PM »
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1. Withdraw troops from foreign bases and return them to the border.

2. Attack the drug abuse problem

3. Campaign / Budget / etc. finance reform.
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Okay, so your foreign policy is to not have one?

I had a sure fire solution to the illegal drug abuse problem, without legalization, but I think there might be a small flaw.

The solution is to reduce the demand to nil.  This is done by interdicting the supply, poisoning it, and then returning it to the pipeline.  Within six months, the demand would be virtually eliminated.  

I may still have a bug or two in the plan.
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2005, 06:55:28 PM »
BADNARIK '04!!!1~`1`one

oh, uh oops.
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2005, 07:01:32 PM »
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Okay, so your foreign policy is to not have one?


he speak about politics...  he doesnt  have to do what he say.... the only important thing is to explain his steps.

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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2005, 07:36:51 PM »
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Legalizing them with a heavy tax only makes the illegal market sell them cheaper without tax... and you'd still be stuck with the effects drugs have on society...only that it will affect a whole lotta more people.


Holland has done this. Initially they had a higher drug abuse rate but iirc that has tapered off and they now have a lower drug abuse rate than before drugs were made legal.

What I find confusing is that certain drugs like alcohol and nicotine are legal and others are illegal.

If I were elected President I would close ALL military bases outside of America's borders and move all units home. I would do things to encourage manufacturers to keep their plants in America instead of moving them to 3rd world countries. I would downsize our military. Instead of our military being a *reaction force able to deploy anywhere in the world in a matter of a few days* it would be a defense force.

I would sponsor legislation to make it criminal for the media to knowingly present false information.

I would also immediately stop ALL foreign aid. I would first use those funds to pay off the national debt, then I would use those funds to fight poverty and crime.

I would actively promote alternative fuel programs to eliminate our dependence on the middle east for oil.

I would also kick the UN out of America and withdraw from the UN body.

Actually the first thing I think I would do is deport Billary Clinton heh.

Thats my list for starters :)
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2005, 07:39:16 PM »
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Holland has done this. Initially they had a higher drug abuse rate but iirc that has tapered off and they now have a lower drug abuse rate than before drugs were made legal.

What I find confusing is that certain drugs like alcohol and nicotine are legal and others are illegal.

If I were elected President I would close ALL military bases outside of America's borders and move all units home. I would do things to encourage manufacturers to keep their plants in America instead of moving them to 3rd world countries. I would downsize our military. Instead of our military being a *reaction force able to deploy anywhere in the world in a matter of a few days* it would be a defense force.

I would sponsor legislation to make it criminal for the media to knowingly present false information.

I would also immediately stop ALL foreign aid. I would first use those funds to pay off the national debt, then I would use those funds to fight poverty and crime.

I would actively promote alternative fuel programs to eliminate our dependence on the middle east for oil.

I would also kick the UN out of America and withdraw from the UN body.

Actually the first thing I think I would do is deport Billary Clinton heh.

Thats my list for starters :)



Ladies and Gentleman I think I have found my Vice Presidential canidate. :aok

Oh I forgot to mention that I would also build military bases along the U.S. Canada border. With that countries 10 months of winter they have way to much time on their hand and I am sure they are up to something.

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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2005, 07:49:40 PM »
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Ladies and Gentleman I think I have found my Vice Presidential canidate.


:rofl
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2005, 08:17:01 PM »
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Thus eliminating any influence you will have on world affairs (good or bad)


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You'd be like france. All talk, no teeth, always afraid to lose and forced to bribe others so they dont see you in a bad light.



Isn't America's influence what everyone else in the world gripes about? Eliminating that influence would be a good thing imo.

Be like France???? NEVAH!!  More like FDR said, walk softly but carry a big stick.
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Legalizing them with a heavy tax only makes the illegal market sell them cheaper without tax... and you'd still be stuck with the effects drugs have on society...only that it will affect a whole lotta more people.


No heavy tax here, just a tax, sales tax might be enough. Use the proceeds to treat drug addicts and run anti drug ad campaigns.
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2005, 08:17:06 PM »
"Holland has done this. Initially they had a higher drug abuse rate but iirc that has tapered off and they now have a lower drug abuse rate than before drugs were made legal. "

tapered off? Or more likely ceased to be reported as drug abuse. Remember once things become part of daily life they cease to be considered a 'problem'.

Like alchohol and tobacco for example. You dont consider someone getting drunk or smoking 2 packs a day to be an addict... mainly because the effects of those 2 drugs arent as serious as heroin or cocaine. But they are there.

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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2005, 08:31:32 PM »
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Be like France???? NEVAH!!  More like FDR said, walk softly but carry a big stick.
 


Could not have said it better myself, I may have not stated it correctly, but I was not speaking of using a policy of isolation. What I was refering to was pulling our troops and bases out of areas which have voiced strong opostion against us. I also believe we need to stop being such a policing agent for the world. I dont mean that we will just let the world do what it wants, but we whould examine every case individually and base our decison to get involved on how much it will effect us. If two countries get into a dispute we could step in as an arbitrator and not take sides. That way we can monitor the situation but not appear to be a force working for either faction.

I woud also encourgge open talks with the North Koreans that would hopefully work towards a nuclear back off on both sides.

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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2005, 08:51:45 PM »
Thanks Oct, I knew it was one of the Roosevelt's :D
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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2005, 09:18:29 PM »
I was positive that "Speak softly, carry a big stick" was Teddy, but some sources replace "Speak" with "Walk," so I killed my post before I could confirm :cool:.
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