Chigger gauges need resizing

[Jackal1]

 A little perspective.

[TDeacon]

I think the point is that:

1)  This is a game, not real life, played using a limited resolution computer monitor.  

2)  It makes good business sense for HTC to consider allowing those of us with worse than 20-20 vision to still enjoy the game we are paying $15. a month for.  

3)  Keeping the gauges readable by slightly enlarging them does not affect gameplay for other players.  (Not like changing the performance of one's favorite plane).

[Fruda]

Here's an idea: How about instead of changing the gauge sizes in general, why not add an "increase gauge size" option?

I get pissed off when a few people start complaining, and then sometimes, whaddya know, the game gets changed for the worse because of it. Not just this game, but a lot of games (Half-Life mods, mainly).


This just seems like it would be a lot better than changing it completely. Sort of like the Easy Flight switches.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Guppy35
Guess this will sound goofy, but can't you guage how high you are in relation to things by looking outside the cockpit?

And after flying a particular AH bird, don't you get a 'feel' for your speed?

Maybe that's why I get shot down so often.  I gotta look at the guages more

Dan/Slack

I use my instruments, they can fill in the gaps for me that you can't get because of the lack of sensory information that is inherent in PC flightsims.  The G indicator I use a lot, especially in high speed maneuvering so I won't blow too much E in turns.


ack-ack

[TDeacon]

Fruda,

What we are talking about here is not "changing the gauge size", but "retaining the traditional gauge size".  The concern is that the new, smaller gauge size on the Frank and the 38s will be extended to the whole lineup.

I don't think people had a problem with gauge size as it was prior to the above 2 new planes.  Anyway, I didn't.



Looking at them again, it's not just the overall size, but the size of the markings and needle, plus reflections off the glass.  They are pretty, but I would vote against going any farther in that direction, due to the readability issue.  The 38 gauges seem to be incrementally less readable than the Frank's, to my eye.



Also, Fruda, as people get older, more and more body parts get "****ed up", as you put it.  Getting glasses only works up to a point.  Also, the ability to focus at different distances gradually goes away, and glasses don't help much with this (not even bifocals).  You may well experience this phenomenon when you get past 50...  :-)

[Jackal1]

Fruda, try to get a grip, would ya.
Once again, as has been explained to you before, we are not talking about changing the game. I`d like to know what you think would hinder your Aceness so much by retaining the original gauge size.   What do you fly under, IDwise anyway? Man you must have everything honed to a delicate fine edge if this is going to hinder your gameplay.

[Fruda]

Did I say it would hinder my gameplay? It would hinder my experience as a whole, simply by knowing that once again, a very small amount of people whined hard enough to make the developers change the game, where complete change wasn't needed. It would almost ruin the look of the cockpit. It's like somebody permanently resizing the fonts on Internet Explorer. That would just suck.

I'm hoping that this scenario doesn't happen, but rather a switch that you could turn on to enlarge the instruments. The gauges are the size they're supposed to be --- but, having that switch for those of you with less than 20-20 vision would be nice.

Like I said, it's better than changing it for every one.

[Simaril]

What about this --

Could there be a setting to make the needles incandescently bright? That way nothing would have to be remodelled, and those of us with lower screen resolutions or .....  more mature, yeah, thats it...... eyes could still get a quick look at the data. Might not be able to see the numbers, but knowing the gauge's location and the needle's position would give everything I need.










And Fruda, my vision is 20/15 to 20/20. I have an LCD screen and have to run at 1024.  The gauges on the new planes are almsot indecipherable for me at my preferred seat position -- and I think its a factor of the LCD pixel size. If I slide the seat forward and back, the distortion shifts and I can see different parts of the gauge graphic, but never the whole thing clearly at once.



Arrogant:     1. marked by or arising from an assumption of one's superiority toward others>  

Examples come to mind?  

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Fruda
Did I say it would hinder my gameplay?  

Now that you bring it up, yes you did.

Gameplay should not be altered for the benefit of people who whine needlessly.

And once again, nobody is whining here but you and I don`t think you even know what about.

It would hinder my experience as a whole, simply by knowing that once again, a very small amount of people whined hard enough to make the developers change the game, where complete change wasn't needed.

If change hinders your experience, then MAN have you picked the wrong game. The game changes on an ongoing basis. And yet once again , nobody is whining but you. And yes, the change is needed. Anyone that can comprehend can see that from this thead.

The gauges are the size they're supposed to be

You didn`t happen to run across that picture up there of the 38 cockpit did ya? And that was taken from outside, above and to the rear of the cockpit.

Once again I`d like to ask the question you never answered. What ID do you play under? I just need to see where all this Aceness is coming from.

[AcId]

Honestly.....The very first thing I noticed when I took up the new 38 was that I could barely make out what guages were what. I'm no old fart, I'm 32 and my eyes are still in good shape (knock on wood) yet the difference in readability is there whether one likes it or not. I for one cannot for the life of me understand how making guages more readable would hinder anyones overall experience. Do you think HTC, if they make a change, is going to make it so drastic that it becomes too gamey or not historical??? If so, then in my opinion your not familiar with how Hitech conducts business. Try to be a little open minded and use a little common sense here, I really don't think thats too much to ask......this is NOT a half-life mod

Ya know what.....I bet if HTC took a poll and asked if the general public thought the new 38's guages were less readable than every other plane in the set the results would likely favor "yes"

I haven't seen anyone whining here....it's an observation. To some it's blatantly obvious, to others it may not be. So what? Just because someone doesn't notice something doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

[WMLute]

it's obvious from the pic.  by makin' the gagues MORE like real life, they would be easier to read.

I too am wondering what Fruda's in game ID is......  guys that post lots of smack talk on the bbs, and don't use their in game ID always make we wonder.......

[JB73]

i dont really care either way because i never fly those allied planes...

but at 1024x768 on my system, when i did try the new planes offline i could not read a single guage, i'll take a screenshot of what i see soon, keep the resolution, and make the jpeg no compression.

[Jackal1]

73, still gonna post those screenies?

[JB73]

Originally posted by Jackal1
73, still gonna post those screenies?

ummm

lol


old thread


lol serious i forgot, and saturday my PC went Buzzzt...........

blank, nothing, nada, zilch

pretty positive the power supple went, but not sure of residual damage. if there is any residual damage i may be out of the game for a month or more.

[Jackal1]

Rut Roh.