Originally posted by Engine
Who could possibly think a personal permanent squelch, or an option to disable range vox, could in any way be a bad thing?
Boggling.
in a fight defending a base, all the friendlies in the air are needed.
helping your fellow man stay alive becomes important if the FH have been killed. now when you look around and see someone unaware of the diving p38 comming at them, you want to warn them.
myself i have a HOTAS setup, with rudder pedals (with all the X45's, X52's, and CH setups out there i know there are more than just a few). i have used all my buttons for essential items, and for 2 years have not had the ability in combat to let go of my stick, pull out the keyboard tray, find the " ' " key, scroll through the planes in sight, and check six the guy.
so i call out, "XXXX check six p38 diving" on range.
let's imagine he has range turned off, i have no way of knowing this, and expect he heard me, yet he doesn't evade. he dies, and now there is one less plane trying to save a base.
now he's in the tower typing on country text that he's mad at my me, my squad, or all people at that base for no check six call -OR- he just silently is mad, and intentionally does not help certain people, because in his mind they didn't help him. -OR- maybe now im mad at him because i have to fight more planes alone because he was to worried about what might be said on vox that working together, and accomplishing something as a group doesn't matter to him. sounds selfish to me.
yes it is his fault for now having the SA, but nobody's perfect, and you can not see everything every time.
there is a reason they have a check six button, and there is a reason we can talk on range to each other.
like i said before, for every example of someone who wants range to be squelched, there is an example of another relying on it.
i have been around for over 3 years, not as much as many, but long enough i think to understand the importance of communication in a fight. i have also spoken to enough, and seen enough at the cons that have similar HOTAS setups, and only have to touch their keyboard to type into the text buffer.
just because i have chosen to spend the money, and learn to fly that way, shoudl i be punished and HAVE to use the keyboard more to communicate to someone who doesn't want to hear me try and help him?
now this is just simple examples, but i think with a little thought you can see the possibilities. i'll say it again, there are 2 sides to every issue, we happen to disagree.
what does the entire MA (all the masses that do not even come to the bulletin board) think about this? i can only guess that with so many upset over VOX being lost, that this would frustrate them also. i may be wrong, but i may be right also.
in all the only solution i can think of is making range a tunable second VOX, but then new players would have to be tuned by default. that would defeat the purpose of making it tunable.
i personally have yet to come up with a solution that suits all. so who do you isolate? who do you metaphorically give the finger to, saying "i dont care what you think is best"? which side?
i will make clear AGAIN i am NOT for cussing on vox, or anything like that at all. i am meerly pointing out a side to the story.
