This thread started as a complaint that the la7 is way faster then a 109 g6 on the deck and never really evolved from there.
No, Pongo. This thread started out from a complaint that the La-7 is free, but other planes of its peers, are not. There's a big difference. You should not have missed it.
I have watched 2 guys in Ta152s dominate a fight for 10 minutes, up and down the fur ball.
I've seen Steve and Wildthing in two high P-51Ds clearing an entire area of red guys.
I have beaten an la7 in a tempest with 2k bombs on.
I've beaten a Spit5 with an A6M5 with two bombs on it.
The hog 4 is an absolutly excellent plane.
So is the Fw190D-9 or the Bf109G-10.
The Hogc is perked for reasons that eveyone knows and I think would likly return imediatly if it was unperked.
Right. The C-hog stays perked in both of my suggestions.
The thing is, Pongo, you're looking at this from a single pilot's point of view, especially a GOOD pilot's point of view. You're one of those guys who exploit every ability an excellent plane has, and can even milk it out from planes that don't have any ability in the first place.
Exactly because of that, you fail to see flying styles, usage rates, and popularity values don't linearly evolve with either performance, balance, or pilot capability regarding that plane.
The favorites in the MA already, has just as much excellent traits as those which are perked.
A Bf109G-10 is untouchable as long as WEP lasts(and if the pilot has good SA). A La-7 is uncatchable low-alt performer if it has some kind of head-start(and if the pilot has good SA). A Fw190D-9 is the ulitmate "Hunstang", and is also uncatchable(and if the pilot has good SA).. and on and on and on with the
"(if the pilot has good SA)" condition.
The really funny thing is, many people who have previously shown so much confidence in the pilot than the machine, suddenly turn 180 degrees opposite when it comes to unperking some planes. Suddenly the pilot factor is ignored, and the pure performance becomes so important.
If the F4U-4, Ta152H, Spit14 becomes unperked, will the 90% of the people in the MA suddenly go through some kind of mass mental evolution and use all those plane's strength to the maximum? Ofcourse not. The planes are unperked, but the people are the same.
The people who are doing the stupid stuff in P-51Ds and La-7s are going to be doing the same stupid things in F4U-4 or Spit14s or Ta152s. Except the Spit14 or Ta152 is too slow at deck to do stupid things in it and still get away with it!
The system as it is works fine. Moving the bar arround as to what is perked makes no sense to me.
The system is always fine before somebody changes it. Then it becomes finer.
I think follow the example of the Hog C and perk the 3 gun la7, add a perk 4 hispano spit V and a 4 cannon Ki84.
Perking more stuff and unperking more stuff, are actually the same things in terms of gameplay. Just different "visuals".
WW2 planes evolved to lots of speed and we shoudnt be supprised that this game shows the advantage of that.
I agree. And of the three main planes of Ta152, Spit14, and F4U-4, only the F4U-4 is matches the La-7's level in speed.
Ofcourse, you might say that high-alt speed is important, too. Except in that case, the Bf109G-10 is the fastest non-perked prop-plane in the entire plane-set. This certainly doesn't seem to do it any more fame than the La-7 is boasting at the MA.
Why?
Because, no matter how fast the G-10 is over the La-7 at 22k, the La-7 is still faster than the G-10 at 2.2k, and that's where it matters in the game.
So like you said, we shan't be surprised that this game shows the advantage of that. And while we're at it, let's also allow the other planes that are rare to see in the MA because of their inhibitions, also show their advantage in speed freely.
