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Offline Martlet

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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2005, 02:28:46 PM »
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Without government regulation there will never be smoke free bars because all the addicts will boycott them anyway. Your idealism doesn't always work so well.


Certainly does.  There were quite a few successful smoke free bars several cities I frequented.  

Like I said, I'm not a smoker.

I'll ignore your previous attempt to completely avoid the discussion and make a personal attack as well.
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2005, 02:32:54 PM »
i think the important question here is, can you still smoke wile hunting foxes?

note: after i quit smoking i had to stop going to bars, could not handle the smoke, eyes burned , clothes smelled, even my car smelled just from driving home from the bar.
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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2005, 02:36:17 PM »
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Without government regulation there will never be smoke free bars because all the addicts will boycott them anyway. Your idealism doesn't always work so well.


My idealism works very well.  Better than the "Mommy, make the bad men stop!" idealism being shown by those legislators.
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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2005, 02:43:46 PM »
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My idealism works very well.  Better than the "Mommy, make the bad men stop!" idealism being shown by those legislators.


Which ones..the ones in New York or lots of other US cities who have similar laws...or the nanny Britsh legislators who are just getting around to discussing the topic?
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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2005, 02:45:07 PM »
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Which ones..the ones in New York or lots of other US cities who have similar laws...or the nanny Britsh legislators who are just getting around to discussing the topic?
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Not just cities.  It's statewide in some places.
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« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2005, 02:54:21 PM »
Its law in New Zealand now.

Talk about a massive anticlimax, smokers were screaming it was infringing on their freedoms, pubs were claiming they'd go out of business, the sky was falling...

end result: huge uptake on government funded programs to get smokers off smoking (lots of smokers noted that social smoking in pubs was one reason they never gave it up). No difference to clubs or pubs business, in fact some a reporting a business increase as there are more non-smokers in the general population than smokers.

The only losers are the dirty tobacco companies.
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« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2005, 03:00:08 PM »
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Its law in New Zealand now.

Talk about a massive anticlimax, smokers were screaming it was infringing on their freedoms, pubs were claiming they'd go out of business, the sky was falling...

end result: huge uptake on government funded programs to get smokers off smoking (lots of smokers noted that social smoking in pubs was one reason they never gave it up). No difference to clubs or pubs business, in fact some a reporting a business increase as there are more non-smokers in the general population than smokers.

The only losers are the dirty tobacco companies.


That isn't the point, though.   My position is I don't want a nanny state.  I don't want people telling me how to run my business.
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« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2005, 03:04:25 PM »
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its a pub, whining about smoke in a pub is like whining about water in a lake...which we should get rid of, god knows whos been peeing in there...not to mention the fish


This is the one that always amuses me, I thought pubs were places people gathered to drink, didn't know they gathered there to make others smell bad.

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« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2005, 03:15:39 PM »
Vorticon how much experience do you have concerning pubs?
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« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2005, 03:16:33 PM »
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Vorticon how much experience do you have concerning pubs?


thrila's experience amounts to 'men only' pubs...
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« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2005, 03:19:19 PM »
That's still experience.........big boy.
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« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2005, 03:26:23 PM »
You won't know a pub untill you've tangoed in Blue Oyster.
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« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2005, 04:23:34 PM »
I am against smoking bans mostly because it infringes on a business owners right to run his business as he sees fit.  Govt offices/buildings....sure....but privately owned businesses, shouldnt it be up to the owners descretion.  If a smoke free pub is the way to go than owners should adjust accordingly.
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« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2005, 04:36:30 PM »
It doesn't infringe anything because it puts everyone in the same line. People won't stop going to pubs and nobody loses business as it's as illegal to everyone.

Everywhere that this kind of laws were created the end result has been positive, meaning the business actually got bigger than before.
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« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2005, 04:46:02 PM »
First the smoke ...
Next the beer ...

A civilisation is dying :p
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