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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2005, 11:54:53 PM »
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Well... it's like this:  How DARE the peasants assume to think they can handle something with wings!!!!!!  

In reality though, I think those on top who plan with the future in mind, realize the day we no longer actually NEED a man IN the cockpit isn't as far off as many would like to believe.


as a guy that wrenches on ejection seats for a living.

I 100% agree

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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2005, 11:59:57 PM »
13mo to TERMINAL leave baby!!
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« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2005, 12:11:58 AM »
Terminal leave? OMG your going to Die?
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« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2005, 03:41:33 AM »
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Dude dances better than I do.


Same thing I was thinking... if he's not gay, he's gonna score big time in the disco.

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« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2005, 03:45:59 AM »
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Nope I don't hate Americans.

I disagree with your Govt and your President's foreign policy.

Not the same thing at all.

What worries me is the ammount of Paranoia you guys are showing. Europeans don't hate Americans. many of us Don't agree with your Pres. Don't like him even. But Your President is not your whole nation.

unless its

Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer, over there now?


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« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2005, 04:01:39 AM »
I thought so though the quote from AH maybe a bit strong. If you look at the Paranoia and simmering anger and hatred towards outsiders expressed on this BBs by some people its kind of worrying. I went to US in 98 and had a great time. I'm actualy not sure I'd want to go in current climate if the attitudes expressed here are indicative of the way Public opinion is over there. Shame realy.

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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2005, 05:54:23 AM »
this place is not a very good cross section of the american culture really.  most people that i know in the real world are generally polite and will reserve thier dark little beasts for more anonymous places.

just like everywhere else i suppose.

this is probably one of the angrier boards that i go to...but hey...they're family... much like the drunk uncle at any given feast.  ya, he's loud, obnoxious and embarrassing, but you'll bail him out anyway.  

bless her little heart she stays with him.


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« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2005, 06:34:48 AM »
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then we say....and who saved you from them??????



Not you ... western allies sold us and we were liberated by Russian/allies....

Later allies sold US to russian once more.


Every little children know, that US were trying to avoid war as long as possible. So please stop with that theatre... " We... all mighty US save the world..."
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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2005, 08:32:18 AM »
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Every little children know, that US were trying to avoid war as long as possible. So please stop with that theatre... " We... all mighty US save the world..."


Damned if we do, damned if we don't.

You Yankees tried to avoid war. Shame of you.

You Yankees went to war. Shame on you.

Isolationism.  That's where it's at!

Wait, we did that before. Got attacked.

Then got "America shouldn't have tried to avoid the war."

Maybe we just need to wait  until the wars get bigger. Should have stayed out of Yugosalvia, maybe it would have got bigger. Stayed out of Iraq...and Kuwait, maybe it would have got bigger.

And then we could have listened to:  The U.S. isn't doing anything to help the poor suffering people of *insert country here*

Screw 'em all. Let each group attack the other.  Screw the civilians on the news. Just wait, because.....It'll get bigger!   :confused:


i dont got enough perkies as it is and i like upen my lancs to kill 1 dang t 34 or wirble its fun droping 42 bombs

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« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2005, 09:39:05 AM »
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Gay


 typical

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« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2005, 12:14:09 PM »
Guns,

You're right about senior NCOs providing the continuity in the force.  They lead the junior enlisted troops and guide/educate junior officers on their path to becoming real leaders.  

To anyone here currently serving talking trash about this kid saying they wouldn't want to serve under him, get a clue.  And stand at attention while you do it.  Seriously, what kind of retard would make a judgement about the military abilities or leadership skills of someone based on a candid camera shot of something they do in the pseudo-privacy of their own dorm rooms?

I've been in for 15 years now and I don't know ANY "good" troop who wouldn't take an order from that kid after he graduates and pins on his bars.  Sure they might get a good laugh at his expense, but the day he graduates he outranks some 60% of the USAF, and at that point the correct response is "yes sir".  If you can't handle that, get out.  The CSAF has provided very clear guidance in recent years in his CSAF sight pictures outlining what he expects from our force, both the enlisted and officer corps.  In military and professional matters, he expects disciplined behavior and proper conduct in all facets of your life.  What you say in private is one thing, but when on the job, you salute sharply and do your best to carry out your orders to the best of your ability.  Those who fail to follow and uphold the standards have been expressly invited by the CSAF to leave the service.

So if you can't follow or work with this kid when he earns the right to wear his bars just because he gets a little wacky practicing his radical dance moves in his dorm room, you've been shown the door so get out.  I'll help you fill out the paperwork if you like.  I'm in the global email list under Lakenheath so I'm easy to get ahold of.

Oh yes...  There's a war on right now, there are troops in my flight receiving direct fire on a daily basis, and in a combat area insubordination is a very serious offense.   The amount of bullshxt I hear from some junior USAF troops sickens me because good, sharp troops are put in danger by their undisciplined attitudes and poor behavior.  So I take retarded statements like "I'm glad I'll be out before I have to take orders from this guy" pretty seriously.  If you can't take orders from this guy, why are you waiting?  Get out now because it's not up to you to decide who you take orders from, and I don't want to rely on your sorry butt when you decide who you are and are not going to take orders from tomorrow.  STFU and soldier on like everyone else, or get out.

This ends your daily morale, recruiting, and retention briefing.  Carry on.
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« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2005, 12:37:53 PM »
Bah.  I'm grumpy about this, no sense of humor at all, because I've had to deal with a couple of sarcastic NCOs recently as well as a bunch of airmen who were apparently not taught to call anyone "sir" in official correspondence.  I don't know what they're teaching in basic training, but every one of my senior NCOs knows that you call a Major or Lt Col "sir" even in email, yet I keep seeing official email from junior enlisted troops that are as casual as if they were speaking to their roommate.  I know we can afford to not be too uptight about customs and courtesies, but the basic courtesies do not change, and have not changed since the inception of the US Air Force.  In the Army or Marines, they teach this in basic training.  When I was in basic, I was taught this.  I counted last week and 5 out of 7 official exchanges I witnessed between officers in my flight and SrA or younger troops were somewhere between friday-night casual and outright disrespect.

It's a growing problem because apparently nobody has the time to sit down with these kids and explain what is expected of them.  As the simplest example, there are customary guidelines for the formatting of official email, including using rank and name of the recipient at the begining, rank and name at the end, and an official signature block in a format specified by AFI.  Instead, what I typically get is a response like:

"yea I can do that"

with no name, often no subject line, etc.  When I need to send the exact same message to anyone senior to me, it goes something like this:

Col Smith,

Sir, I will take care of this issue and report the results.

Respectfully

Maj Long

//Signed//
Full name, rank, USAF
Office symbol
Duty phone

The O6 uses this format when corresponding with the O7, and he even uses a similiar format when writing to others of equal or lower rank, out of simple military courtesy.  This simple form of courtesy is NOT BEING TAUGHT to our troops, and it reduces morale and effectiveness because they grow up thinking that obeying orders and following military customs and courtesies are optional based on what they think of whoever they're dealing with.  The UCMJ does not have a chapter on how to obey orders from someone you think is a jerk, overbearing, or stuck-up.  It's pretty clear that the rules apply across the board.

So that's why I'm touchy about this sort of thing, because yea I could just let it slide and not say anything, but people not saying anything just perpetuates the problem and creates an atmosphere of disrespect and distrust in the ranks and in the workplace.  Any good officer or NCO knows that true respect is earned, but obedience and a duty to not show disrespect to your superiors comes with the uniform.
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« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2005, 12:59:03 PM »
Anybody who didn't act a little goofy at 19 shouldn't even be considered for a commision.

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« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2005, 02:48:51 PM »
Everyone is free to make their generalizations from this video. :D

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« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2005, 03:26:56 PM »
Originally posted by Gunslinger:
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as a guy that wrenches on ejection seats for a living.


     That's what I did in the Air Force 30 years ago. I was an egress mechanic on F-105s and F-4 Phantoms. Good old Martin-Baker seat.

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