Author Topic: Kids will be Kids (Read 1775 times)

midnight Target · « **on:** March 01, 2005, 09:48:46 PM »

Finally the Supreme Conservative Court gives a ruling that is beyond question.... correct. WTG.

Here are excerpts from the Supreme Court opinion outlawing the death penalty for offenders under 18 when their crimes were committed:

Sandman · « **Reply #1 on:** March 01, 2005, 09:51:34 PM »

Ahem... Does O'Connor actually believe that the death penalty is a deterrant?

NUKE · « **Reply #2 on:** March 01, 2005, 09:51:50 PM »

I think anyone 14 or older who murders another should be put to death.

Sandman · « **Reply #3 on:** March 01, 2005, 09:52:36 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
I think anyone over 14 who murders another should be put to death.

Hmmm... define murder.

NUKE · « **Reply #4 on:** March 01, 2005, 09:53:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Ahem... Does O'Connor actually believe that the death penalty is a deterrant?

who cares if it is a deterrant? Just kill the moron and save money.

Airhead · « **Reply #5 on:** March 01, 2005, 10:11:41 PM »

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who cares if it is a deterrant? Just kill the moron and save money.

Uh...It costs more to execute a convicted murderer than it does to sentance them to life in prison.

NUKE · « **Reply #6 on:** March 01, 2005, 10:18:46 PM »

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Uh...It costs more to execute a convicted murderer than it does to sentance them to life in prison.

Maybe.... but it shouldn't

Sentence somone to death and they should be executed very shortly afterwards.....no 20 years on death row....just off them.

I have a feeling about what your counter point will be...I'm ready for it.

NUKE · « **Reply #7 on:** March 01, 2005, 10:22:07 PM »

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Hmmm... define murder.

You first. The I will.

Sandman · « **Reply #8 on:** March 01, 2005, 10:24:21 PM »

You used the word... tell us what you mean by it.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #9 on:** March 01, 2005, 10:24:37 PM »

I disagree. I think if your old enough to drive a car your old enough to be held accountable for your actions.

14 no way but 16, 17 heck ya

By 16 they should know right from wrong and know that actions have consequences.

NUKE · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2005, 10:34:08 PM »

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You used the word... tell us what you mean by it.

murder? You don't know what murder is and cannot define it?

I'm not the first to use the term.

Airhead · « **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2005, 10:35:40 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
Maybe.... but it shouldn't

Sentence somone to death and they should be executed very shortly afterwards.....no 20 years on death row....just off them.

I have a feeling about what your counter point will be...I'm ready for it.

Well, I'm hope you're well lubed Nuke, because my counterpoint is that because of the hundreds of exonerated prisoners freed by new technology (and those many more convicted because of this new technology) we have a duty towards justice to insure we go well beyond a reasonable doubt before we exact the ultimate punishment.

We have to go all the way to beyond the shadow of a doubt, and that's where the line gets cloudy- one man's reasonable doubt is another man's beyond a shadow of a doubt.

We are not absolute, or perfect- we are humans, and as such it is impossible for us to be absolutely certain about anything, much less the sanctioned forfiture of another human being's life.

Sandman · « **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2005, 10:36:31 PM »

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murder? You don't know what murder is and cannot deifine it?

I'm not the first to use the term.

That's not the question. Define what you meant by it. You've made a legal recommendation. Know define it in legal terms, please.

Seems to me that in court there is no such thing as simple murder.

NUKE · « **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2005, 10:37:03 PM »

Sandman, I'll make it easy.

Anyone who is convicted of murder should be put to death.....sooner rather than later.

Sandman · « **Reply #14 on:** March 01, 2005, 10:37:47 PM »

Any murder? What about manslaughter?