Need help from fellow 190 flyers

[Lephturn]

LOL, no wonder!

Yes, the 2x30mm are under-wing gondolas and the FW will fly like a truck.  

The 2x20mm and 4x20mm are internal, so either of those setups won't be nearly as bad.  The loadout with 2x20mm is quite nice, and you can surprise the odd Hog or Pony driver with it.  

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Lephturn
The Flying Pigs
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[Pongo]

While none of those weapons are in gondolas
(the 2 * 30mm are in wing mounts taking the place of the outboard 20s)
the effect on handling of putting all that heavy 30mm ammo half way out the wing is quite noticable on the FW. The plane handles much nicer(I think) with only the inboard 20mm and the cowl 13mm.

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Pongo
The Wrecking Crew

[This message has been edited by Pongo (edited 02-14-2000).]

[Mox]

I tried the FW190 on my lunch break and I must say, it's a nice plane when you don't have those 30mm's in the wings!

Thanks Pongo and Lephturn!

Mox
The Wrecking Crew

[Hangtime]

I'm a stang driver; and when I see an FW (or anything else lately) at any alt; I tend to go to 'red alert'.

If pressed from behind, use the outstanding roll rate to get into a scissors. The AH FW is more than generous regarding min controlable airspeed and stall.. you can easily force most contenders out in front, or sweep em off entirely to a high go-around. Use the tools you have that they don't. Wicked accel; fast roll; excellent vis and rugged airframe can combine to simply wear the other guy out. Which brings me to the best part.. the pilot.

A mark of an excellent FW pilot is agressiveness, tempered with very good SA. Don't underestimate the fear a front on view that an FW instills in your adversary. He will give you plenty of room; or get a dose of 'old faceful' if he doesn't. Put the fight in his face ASAP.  

Remember to fight in the vertical. Stay away from flat turning. Practice near stall rudder over (wingover); or better yet the snap roll. Near stall; nose up sharply, close throttle gently. At stall, open throttle sharply to WEP; right aileron & right rudder, hold stick back. Wallah!

Prime rule of engagement in AH with any E fighter.. : ATTACK DOWN; EVADE UP. Don't pretend to be anything other than what you are.. the biggest fastest cannon truck ever built on the continent. Fly it that way.

Fuel states are a crictical a factor in deciding when to turn.. when to run. If you are light (and hopefully you've only got the 2 inboard 20's on board) on gas you are very nimble.. and can surprise your adversary. Be agressive.. but be smart.  

Hope this helps!

Hang

[funked]

Mauser:  The AH 190 seems to be carrying the weight of the R-7 armor kit.  It's optimized for killing bombers, not fighters.  If you want to engage fighters, get above them.  If they are level with you or above, go away and come back with more altitude.  

Juzz:

That's one man's (Brown's) opinion.  I've heard it both ways.

Kurt Tank (who had just a tad more stick time in the 190 than Brown   ) discussed flying  the A-7 in "Kurt Tank:  Focke-Wulf's Designer and Test Pilot" by Wolfgang Wagner:

 

The stall handling was surprisingly pleasant for such a relatively heavy aircraft.  Tank chopped the throttle, reduced his airspeed to 220 km/h and found he could maintain control through all rolling and yawing movements.  When stalling, the airplane dropped forward, built up speed, and returned control back to Tank almost immediately.  It had no tendency to tip over onto either wing.  However there was no warning before entering the stall, although the experienced pilot immediately sensed he was flying in the stall regime as soon as pressure on the controls eased up.

Now Tank began spinning with the Fw 190.  The plane was not easy to put into a spin; if a pilot applied rudder at about 180 km/h, the plane simply stalled over on the wing.  Tank tried it and everything went just like it had on the earlier versions of his airplane.  During test flights with the Ta 152, the airplane once went into a spin following a stall, but he was not able to repeat this since in all other cases the machine stalled out normally, picked its nose up and built up speed again.

Also the USAAF "Handbook for Fw 190 Airplane", Technical Report # F-TR-1102-ND, has the following entry in the "Flight Test Results" section regarding the Fw 190G-3 they tested:  
 

Stalls and stall warnings.  This airplane has a gentle stall.  Controls remain effective up to the stall.  Stall warning is adequate, as a shaking of the airplane and controls is noticed.