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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2005, 03:07:35 PM »
some one posted an american ww2 real picture of a plane that got "hit in the oil".

All the windows were BLACK on that picture. I wonder if some one could post that pic again?

Actually, I wonder if a oil leak in AH could gradually get worse and worse, untill one cant see nothing but black lol.

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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2005, 03:32:54 PM »
Question....was the oil just changed or old?

I have my mechanic change the oil after ever flight so if I take a hit to the engine the windshield should really look like coconut oil, right?

I can understand that there are many of you who never give yer mechanic a case of jungle juice to keep him going and never get your oil changed. Those who do that should have dirty oil all over the windscreen.

For those of us that do please, make the oil nice and clear.

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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2005, 03:37:06 PM »
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
Question....was the oil just changed or old?

I have my mechanic change the oil after ever flight so if I take a hit to the engine the windshield should really look like coconut oil, right?
Apparently, the planes in AH2 use graphite oils, so it's always jet black.



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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2005, 03:38:34 PM »
ahem...  some nice planes had this pump to spray gasoline on the windshield... to spray away the oil...  Howabout it ;)


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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2005, 03:51:23 PM »
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Now suddenly the importance of 'real life'?

 I could swear I spotted some of us in this thread, writing in other threads concerning 'realism' issues like landings or trims and stuff, mentioning 'this isn't real life, so get over it yadayada..'. .............etc

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personally i have always been in favour of realism.

please correct/quote me if i have a bad memory.


i believe there is another thread in the works right now started by me requesting friendly collisions and no killshooter.


very rarely do I forget which side of the fence i sit on in any given topic, but I appologise if I have given the impression of wanting relaxed realism in the past.

but i understand your point, just it wasnt very relative to quote me when making it.

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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2005, 03:51:24 PM »
(excerpt taken from:
Franz Kurowski's:

BRIDGEHEAD KURLAND: The Six Epic Battles of Heeresgruppe Kurland

ISBN:
0 921991 66 5)

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On 16 February 1945, I attacked enemy armor in my Focke Wolf 190. It had already gotten quite close to our main line of resistance in foggy weather about 10 kilometers southeast of Tukkum.

Three of my comrades closed up with me when I designated the target. We dove on the group of armor and fired our rockets. I was fortunate enough to knock out three enemy tanks in three passes. Three more were crippled by my comrades. Since I expended my rockets, I tried to destroy the remaining tanks, which had already turned back, with my on-board weapons. In the process my aircraft took one or two hits in the lubrication system and also in the compass connections.

Orientation was no longer possible. Vision forward was prevented by the oil film that built up on the front windshield. The cockpit canopy was also stuck, so I sat in my aircraft as if I were in a coffin.

When the engine oil ran out and the engine temperature rose, I had to make an emergency landing. I could only see to the rear, so, with a “look back” I landed on an open field near an abandoned artillery position about 30 meters from a farmstead and 80 meters from a high-tension electric line.


I am certain that my landing rates as a most extraordinary piece of good luck in aviation.

I had neither pistol nor identification with me. When I saw several soldiers in camouflage parkas draw near I grabbed the flare pistol from the cockpit and waited.

Again my luck held. They were Latvians from one of the two Latvian Waffen-SS divisions. They took me to their battalion command post.

I was well received in the grenadiers’ bunker and fed. Soon I was driven back to my airfield.


Incidentally, Erhard Jähnert received the knights cross on 18 May 1943 as a Leutnant flying stukas while attached to Stukageschwader 4.

Later as Staffelkäpitan of 9./Stukageschwader 2, he took part in that squadrons greatest success when it sank 3 soviet destroyers in the Black Sea south of the Crimea.

He was later removed from combat duty and assigned as an instructor. In the fall of 1944 at his own personal request he was transferred to the Kurland Bridgehead and made Staffelkäpitan of 2./Schlachtgeschwader 3.

He destroyed 25 Soviet tanks while flying the FW 190F-8 over Kurland.. On the day of surrender he took what passengers he could and flew out of Kurland and landed at Flensburg. He was put up for the oak leaves but in the hectic days just prior to German capitulation the award never went through.
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2005, 03:54:02 PM »
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Originally posted by mechanic
yeah...ok...so it does go everywhere IRL.


but you can also open the canopy ~IRL.


there should at least be some randomizer for how much it covers your canopy, not the same full coat all over every time.


And then YOU get covered in oil. From all the books I've read on WWII combat, and oil leak caused major havoc, including removing forward visibility totally. I think it was Pierre Closterman who had the bright idea of opening the canopy when he had an oil leak, and he then lost forward visibility AND instruments, because the oil streamed into the cockpit. I think the minor impact we get is pretty gamey ;)
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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2005, 03:59:15 PM »
good point there.

but obviously you never have flown a spitfire in AH and got an oil leak.

i would guess that 85% of the window is covered to the point of totaly obstructing visibilty.


however....in the 190, the visibilty is only reduced by about 40%

doesnt seem right considering the extract from a german pilot a few posts up.



is this to combat the 'spit dweeb' or is it simply to do with the shape of the canopies/possition of oil pipes and tanks in different planes?
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2005, 04:01:51 PM »
Graphite oil wasn't availabile in our theatre of operations (whereever that is and I can't tell you because loose lips sink ships). When we ran outa coconut oil some guys actually put whale oil in that this guy named Ishmal used to pedal. Unfortunately, you didnt know if someone snuck by and stole the oil to put into their lamps. Some guys didn't find out until after they had their wheels up. If they lived they came back really mad and said the whale oil was bad. They ran down to the docks looking for Ishmal so they could keelhaul him.
When they got down to the docks they heard this dude Ishmal had jumped on a ship that was heading out to sea. Everyone said, don't worry that guy Ihsmal's as good as dead. The ship he left on was Captained by some crazy guy that was after some rock band member named Dick. It seems this Dick had messed up Captains leg somehow and the crazy Captain was out for revenge. But, that's another story.

The wrecked crew figured Ishmal would prolly get his just rewards in Calcutta or Shanghai and never been seen again so they headed back to the field.

It wasn't til almost after the war (just beofer the Knits won it) that someone figured out locals were stealing whale oil.

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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2005, 04:14:58 PM »
Also the oil entering the cockpit / burning the pilot is not modeled.

Neither is hurricane's tendency to burst into a fireball when hit - the pilot sat right on the auxiliary fuel tank which resulted in horrendous pilot burns to those who survived.

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« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2005, 04:41:53 PM »
Scramble, I really laughed out loud in the office when I saw your picture.

Thats pretty funny....dont lose that one

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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2005, 05:27:43 PM »
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Well hey ST, have HTC redesign the engines so that they don't need oil! While your virtual pilot has the window open, wiping off the windscreen with a rag (as the air rushes past at 300mph) why not have him "listen out" for enemies on your 6? Hope you enjoyed your first jet flight experience. Next time, ask them to seat you by a window that opens, so you can enjoy some fresh air during the flight.


LOL, I really laughed at the 'listen out' part.  It is possible to stand up in a plane going 200mph.

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« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2005, 05:38:19 PM »
My only gripe is that on some planes the oil splatter is a perfectly symetrical pattern...would like to see random splatters of varying vision impairment.
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« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2005, 05:55:54 PM »
Anchor- - -.....What was the "official" failure when you were flying your oil covered 172....
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« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2005, 06:01:33 PM »
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
Question....was the oil just changed or old?

I have my mechanic change the oil after ever flight so if I take a hit to the engine the windshield should really look like coconut oil, right?

I can understand that there are many of you who never give yer mechanic a case of jungle juice to keep him going and never get your oil changed. Those who do that should have dirty oil all over the windscreen.

For those of us that do please, make the oil nice and clear.

:lol :rofl :lol :rofl :lol :rofl :lol :mad: :rofl

Ren



You have a mechanic? Hmmm. I have a aussie (female) bartender who only puts non artificially colored single malt scotch in my engine.....:)
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