Get rid of oil on windscreen

[SunTracker]

Oil is just as likely to go down or to the sides as it is to go on the windscreen.  Oil leaks should effect engine performance, not visibility.  Plus, my virtual pilot carries a rag and oil remover, so he would have cleaned his windshield had oil gotten on his screen.

[DipStick]

Well "less" oil would be nice, think it should "impair" you slightly but not to the degree it does now. Should make it harder to see but not almost impossible (gamewise - don't know or care about reallife).

[ALF]

apparently youve never blown an engine.....the oil goes EVERYWHERE:D   It is also a concession to reality where smoke or other visability effecting stuff may have filled the cockpit.  In the past an oil hit was nothing more than a time limit till you had to disengage, and with the typical short distances in the MA, the damage didnt mean much...now thats fixed.

I would like to see some additional modeling for engine hits as well.  All engine damage was not oil or coolant (which has been conspicuously missing in my experience as of late....maybe Im just good).  I would like damage that effects performance:

Type 1 would just cause a loss of power, as in a missfiring cylinder(s), or loss of compression.  I would run forever but at reduced power output.  The amount of missing power could be represented with the way the 'miss' sound effect played, the more frequent the more power loss......think of an old car that runs like crap:aok

Type 2 would be more severe and involve a thrown rod or other major mechanical issue.  This may reduce power, but the real effect would be that you could no longer use full power safely.  Based on the damage level, the sound effect for the damage (think loud mettal wacking like) would get louder, and not only MAY it cause failure over time....higher power setting would cause progressively quicker deterioration of the engine.....till the evil cease:eek:

Ah well....just my 2¢

[Anchor]

Originally posted by SunTracker
Oil is just as likely to go down or to the sides as it is to go on the windscreen.  Oil leaks should effect engine performance, not visibility.  Plus, my virtual pilot carries a rag and oil remover, so he would have cleaned his windshield had oil gotten on his screen.

Actually, it does go over the windshield, but it is usually worse. I lost an engine once in a Cessna 172 and lost ALL forward visibility, not to mention the stench of the oil burning on the manifolds, and the smoke in the cockpit, and the stench of crap in my pants .

I think it is FAIR in AH that you can at least see something

[RTSigma]

I've blown a motor in my '74 Road Runner and lets just say it will spray EVERYWHERE.

If I had a tape recorder in the car you'd hear:
"My oil gauge is acting goofy."
"What do you mean?"
"Its going up and down."
"Its probably just old"
*WHAM! Wbbrrrrrrrrrrrrtttsss errrrrrrrrshhhh*
"Oh ****"

[Kweassa]

ALF and co. nailed it on the head.

[Engine]

Originally posted by Anchor
Actually, it does go over the windshield, but it is usually worse. I lost an engine once in a Cessna 172 and lost ALL forward visibility, not to mention the stench of the oil burning on the manifolds, and the smoke in the cockpit, and the stench of crap in my pants

How does landing work when that happens? You had to do it on instruments alone, I guess?  Scary.

[mechanic]

yeah...ok...so it does go everywhere IRL.


but you can also open the canopy ~IRL.


there should at least be some randomizer for how much it covers your canopy, not the same full coat all over every time.

[beet1e]

Well hey ST, have HTC redesign the engines so that they don't need oil! While your virtual pilot has the window open, wiping off the windscreen with a rag (as the air rushes past at 300mph) why not have him "listen out" for enemies on your 6? Hope you enjoyed your first jet flight experience. Next time, ask them to seat you by a window that opens, so you can enjoy some fresh air during the flight.

Did any of you see "Battle of Britain"? There's a scene in which a 109 takes a hit in the engine, and oil goes everywhere, completely obscuring the pilot's view.

Originally posted by DipStick
Well "less" oil would be nice, think it should "impair" you slightly but not to the degree it does now. Should make it harder to see but not almost impossible (gamewise - don't know or care about reallife).

Ah well that says it all. Hey, why not have HTC write gravity out of the game? Your aircraft would climb much faster and use less fuel! Better yet, as an unobscured view is so important, you wouldn't need wings (HTC could remove those) and you'd have a much better view of what was going on around you!

[Morpheus]

Leave smartass.

[DipStick]

Originally posted by ALF
All engine damage was not oil or coolant (which has been conspicuously missing in my experience as of late....maybe Im just good).

Now that I think about it, I've NEVER had a radiator hit since AH2 came out.  

PS... He did "leave" the game Morph cuz he suxxor'd but he can't leave the BBS cuz he has NO OTHER LIFE. Sad really...

PSS... "Did any of you see "Battle of Britain"? There's a scene".

Is that "real life" for you beet?

[beet1e]

Originally posted by DipStick
PSS... "Did any of you see "Battle of Britain"? There's a scene".

Is that "real life" for you beet?

Let's just say that the BoB film was a much more authentic re-enactment of WW2 aerial combat than your vision of a "flight sim"/*game* will ever be. Besides, other posters here have  already said what it's like to have an oil leak in RL, and it concurs with that scene in BoB, so

Forgot to say that if you can persuade HTC to get rid of gravity, you'll be back to the good old days of 800yd shots! Heck, your ammo would travel in a straight line! Set your convergence to 20,000yds and let 'em rip. Yeah, baby! Think how much "fun" that would be.

[Kweassa]

yeah...ok...so it does go everywhere IRL.

but you can also open the canopy ~IRL.

there should at least be some randomizer for how much it covers your canopy, not the same full coat all over every time.

 Now suddenly the importance of 'real life'?

 I could swear I spotted some of us in this thread, writing in other threads concerning 'realism' issues like landings or trims and stuff, mentioning 'this isn't real life, so get over it yadayada..'.

 And why would be a 'randomizer' in this instance be good, while another 'randomizer' regarding something like the 88mm flak is bad?

 Not intended as a personal jab at you batfink, but I have to point out the inconsistencies of general thinking when it comes to realism. People have this weird tendency of loving realism in some cases, and hating it in other cases.

 In this case the, the basic intentions on how they implemented the oil burst is so damn clear that I'm quite surprised to find anyone has got any beef with it.

 The impairing of frontal vision is obviously intended on purpose. Many of the much more serious issues regarding oil bursts are left out because it's impossible to implement it in the game. For one thing, people aren't afraid of deaths. There's no smoke, no smell, no heat, no fear. The only 'discomfort' factor regarding engine damage is the fact a 'timer' is set on your engine, like ALF correctly pointed out.

 How does the developer make us respect serious damage that doesn't immediately effect flight controls(so it doesn't feel much serious)?? By limiting outside vision. Simple, brilliant, and realistic method IMO.

 Besides, it's not like the windshield is totally blacked out(as it would in most cases if a real leak ever happened). There's just enough visibility to make out the runways and safely land, but not enough to spot out enemy planes or target them.

 If anything is perfectly done, it's the way it is.

[crims]

Well Just Fly the 38  Oil never gets in the way:D





Crims
479th Raiders

[Kweassa]

Now that I think about it, I've NEVER had a radiator hit since AH2 came out/

 Maybe it depends on the plane.

 I've quite often got rad damage on many different planes. The IL2 typically has a very high chance of radiator damage when strafing tanks.. 109s have really vulnerable wingroot rads, which was damaged in many occasions..  Both in Tas and 190Ds I've experienced rad damage.. etc etc.