Author Topic: CT SET-UP FOR MARCH 11, 2005 (Read 1422 times)

VWE · « **Reply #15 on:** March 11, 2005, 02:18:39 PM »

Well have fun in the DA, try and learn something this time...

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 11, 2005, 03:09:31 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by tikky
lol that's the reason why not many people play in CT..... i guess your cliques definition of CT is...

1. furballing
2. furballing
3. furballing

heck i might as well go-to da...

I dont see what is so hard to understand about the post you quoted. The CT at least TRIES to achieve some balance between the sides, while giving a limited planeset and historical rides. If that doesnt compute for you, then perhaps yes, you should go to the DA or the MA. Thats why there are multiple arenas, so that everyone can get their "fix".

And if you think that the buffs never get used in the CT, you are wrong. Not as often as the MA, but they still get use. Its just more common on squad nights and such than as an all the time thing.

storch · « **Reply #17 on:** March 11, 2005, 11:00:22 PM »

I have just spent the better part of an hour being repeatedly ganged by spitVs. the set up blows. I'll see you guys in a week. have fun.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 12, 2005, 01:25:25 AM »

Funny, I was in there for the hour before that and didnt see one spit. 202s, 205s, a couple of 109s that ran from my P40 and 1 FW. Oh wait, was I supposed to fly the other side to see Spits?

Oldman731 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 12, 2005, 07:52:26 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Funny, I was in there for the hour before that and didnt see one spit. 202s, 205s, a couple of 109s that ran from my P40 and 1 FW. Oh wait, was I supposed to fly the other side to see Spits?

Unhappily, as Eagler has noted, if Spits are included in a setup, most people will fly spits. I'd thought perhaps things would be different when I first logged onto the Axis side last night, given the presence of the P-38, but within a few minutes it seemed to me that the sky was populated by spits.

There are a few hardy souls, like N7, who fly the P-40 and the other allied iron (saw ecmjam repeatedly landing 4-kill sorties in his Hurricane), and I'm holding out hope that people got the spit madness out of their souls last night.

- oldman

Eagler · « **Reply #20 on:** March 12, 2005, 07:57:39 AM »

OM
sry for the p38 ho last night but it was you and two others against my lumbering 38 and had to take what I could get

Urchin · « **Reply #21 on:** March 12, 2005, 11:04:25 AM »

Every time I flew anything other than the Spit, I end up fighting 2 or 3 guys. Every time I fly the Spit I end up fighting 2 or 3 guys. So... why the hell would anyone fly a plane that isn't suited to fighting X on 1 when you have a plane that is perfectly suited to it? Are you guys stupid or just crybabies?

Grits · « **Reply #22 on:** March 12, 2005, 11:32:34 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by Urchin
Are you guys stupid or just crybabies?

In my case, I'd lean towards stupid...

Whenever I fly the Spit V in the CT I try to make up for the EasyMode (TM) plane by fighting as many at the same time as possible. The SpitV 1 v 1 against anything is like taking candy from a baby and I feel all dirty and shameful.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 12, 2005, 11:46:34 AM »

Bah. You are always dirty and shameful Grits.

Grits · « **Reply #24 on:** March 12, 2005, 01:31:23 PM »

Well, that is true, but in the Spit V it makes it an order of magnitude worse than usual.

storch · « **Reply #25 on:** March 12, 2005, 03:47:14 PM »

One can hardly blame the individual player. If I played in an allied squad I would be in the spitV. HTC says that the spitV is modelled correctly. CT staffers correctly place them in the appropriate (never) set ups. Some of the (90%) players will fly the plane. In a 1 v 1 scenario (snowballs chance in hell of happening) the spitV has enough handicaps to make it a fair fight unless the spitV player is experienced, the situation becomes tedious (pain in the arse) when the second, third and fourth spit show up(gangdipwad dweebs). since that is what inevitably occurs some of us will just forego CT participation until the spitV is corrected a bit(totally redone) or the axis models are corrected a bit (100%) to reflect to a degree what was probably real within the depicted time period (never going to happen).

Grits · « **Reply #26 on:** March 12, 2005, 06:37:24 PM »

Just to illustrate the impact of the 16+ boost, the Spit V is now 17MPH faster than it was at 12+ boost. That means its only 1-2MPH slower than the Spit IX and 12-13MPH slower than the 109F-4, yet will turn circles around those two. The 109F-4 does not own the verticle against the Spit V anymore either, which used to be its main advantage. The F-4 is still better in the verticle, but not clearly superior like it was.

Squire and others have documented that the Spit V did use 16+ boost, it did, thats not at issue. What is at issue is where in the "operational life" of the Spit V was it cleared for 16+ boost? It was late in the operational use of the Spit V (after the introduction of the IX), and for the majority of its use (and for the time periods it is usually used in the CT) it was only cleared for 12+. In the MA it makes no difference because its enemies will not be limited to '42-'43 planes like in the CT. As it stands now, the Spit V is superior to the Spit IX in every respect except for the IX's ability to carry a droptank. Since the CT typically has fuel burn set well below the MA 2.0 setting it really makes the IX redundant.

I dont hate the Spit V, on the contrary its my main ride in the MA so I know it fairly well. Against its contemporary rivals, I feel that any other plane has three options against it, which are either run away, gang up on it, or die. IMO It is detrimental to CT gameplay with its current modeling.

storch · « **Reply #27 on:** March 12, 2005, 08:29:25 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Grits
Just to illustrate the impact of the 16+ boost, the Spit V is now 17MPH faster than it was at 12+ boost. That means its only 1-2MPH slower than the Spit IX and 12-13MPH slower than the 109F-4, yet will turn circles around those two. The 109F-4 does not own the verticle against the Spit V anymore either, which used to be its main advantage. The F-4 is still better in the verticle, but not clearly superior like it was.

Squire and others have documented that the Spit V did use 16+ boost, it did, thats not at issue. What is at issue is where in the "operational life" of the Spit V was it cleared for 16+ boost? It was late in the operational use of the Spit V (after the introduction of the IX), and for the majority of its use (and for the time periods it is usually used in the CT) it was only cleared for 12+. In the MA it makes no difference because its enemies will not be limited to '42-'43 planes like in the CT. As it stands now, the Spit V is superior to the Spit IX in every respect except for the IX's ability to carry a droptank. Since the CT typically has fuel burn set well below the MA 2.0 setting it really makes the IX redundant.

I dont hate the Spit V, on the contrary its my main ride in the MA so I know it fairly well. Against its contemporary rivals, I feel that any other plane has three options against it, which are either run away, gang up on it, or die. IMO It is detrimental to CT gameplay with its current modeling.

well....I'm getting my ice skates and we are going ice skating in hell.

Karnak · « **Reply #28 on:** March 12, 2005, 10:25:25 PM »

I've often wondered exactly why HTC raised the boost on the Spitfire Mk V. It certainly didn't seem like it needed it and I can't think of anybody who was asking for it.

If we have to have a Spitfire Mk V with a universal wing at +16lbs boost, maybe they could hadd a Spitfire Mk V with a b wing at +12lbs boost.

The earlier one would only have 60 rounds per gun and would also have a float carburator.

Grits,

The Spitfire Mk IX's high altitude performance is far, far superior to the Spitfire Mk V, even at +16lbs boost. Not that it matters as high altitude fights are rarer than hens teeth.

I agree that the change to the Mk V has made the Mk IX redundant, both in the CT and in the MA.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 13, 2005, 12:13:59 AM »

And then they could perk the +16 Mk V?

Author Topic: CT SET-UP FOR MARCH 11, 2005 (Read 1422 times)

VWE

storch

storch

storch