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Hurricane MkIIB please (12 X .303 version)
« Reply #45 on: March 22, 2005, 06:17:00 PM »
Crumpp:
"Are your numbers coming from Luftwaffe or RAF sources?

The Luftwaffe records I have show 1200 losses to all combat causes. This includes flak.

All the best,

Crumpp"

I'll post it along with Dunkirk losses.
Actually I did...somewhere here on the board, but I'll be quicker retyping it anyway :)
Sources are LW quartermasters, LW direct, and LW quartermasters through Ultra.

The BoB survey is IMHO rather reliable.

Anyway, Seagoon:

A LW aircraft with enough altitude is within gliding distance of France if it hits the narrow strait.
Really, not a deep territory strike in the case of the BoB.
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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Hurricane MkIIB please (12 X .303 version)
« Reply #46 on: March 22, 2005, 06:23:49 PM »
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Sources are LW quartermasters, LW direct, and LW quartermasters through Ultra.


We went through this one before with Barbi, remember?  Ultra intercepts are very unreliable as any aircraft with any damage is reported as a loss.

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« Reply #47 on: March 23, 2005, 05:12:36 AM »
The one I have from Ultra is from the France and lowlands campaign. (I belive)
Will finally have some time at the console today and tomorrow.
Will be back in some 4 hours.

(Tractor clutch spares mission ;))
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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #48 on: March 23, 2005, 01:02:00 PM »
Ok, back.
Part 1. the BoB
John Alcorn's "Top guns of the BoB" article
Looks like very well compiled data, and he put a lot of work into it, starting in 1970.
Ok, some conclusions.
Period: July to and with October, so 4 months (AFAIK)
LW battle related losses:
1.609
To RAF fighters:
Between 1197 and 1231
Top scoring sqn is 603 with 57 kills, there off 47 109's.
(based on LW losses, not RAF claims)
Actually, the Hurricane equipped 501 has 40 kills, there off 30 109's!

Ok, BRB with more
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« Reply #49 on: March 23, 2005, 01:16:29 PM »
Ok, Dunkirk.

RAF sorties total on the 9 days of fighting: 2793
RAF losses 177
LW losses 240

Post war survey. (Rather recent)
From Christopher Shores.


What I have on the French and lowland campaign is 1100 LW aircraft lost. I belive that was from the LW quartermasters. Will post when I find the bloody book ;)
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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)
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