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Offline BALSUR

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« on: March 10, 2005, 09:16:02 PM »
I rolled out a tiger, cost 45 perks. I killed 5 tigers, 22 panzers and 1 m8. Then I got the notorious bomb dropped on my head. When I went into the tower it said I lost 42.72 perks. It may just be me but I think that is very wrong considering I killed 5 tigers and still lost all those perks.

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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2005, 10:09:21 PM »
Welcome to the club.

If you wait long enough to pad your score or spawn camp, then one of the people you zapped took offence and came back and expressed thier displeasure in a personal and terminal way and you made the error of waiting around too long and paid the price.

Get in, get a healthy number of kills and beat feet back to a hangar, because you just became a target to either the gv's or an upset gv'er and he will roll a fighter/medium bomber to end your streak or someone will roll in based on someones call for help and do thier best to send you to the tower.

Should you be awarded the full perk count of your kills for making a tactical error? No, you made a mistake and hung around too long and unlike real life where you would be dead, here you just lose the perk points and wind up in the tower.

Fight smart and don't hang around to long in a perked ride, because someone  likes the potential points just as much as you do.

Speaking as someone who would roll a fighter/medium bomber in on gv's as needed, I learned when in gv's not too hang around for very long, because landing your kills got harder and harder the longer you wait.

Note: I was not one of the dive bombing lanc pilots, preferred the B26 as it semi geared towards ground attack or the IL2 and one or two others.....:D
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Offline FDutchmn

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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2005, 10:20:42 PM »
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I rolled out a tiger, cost 45 perks. I killed 5 tigers, 22 panzers and 1 m8. Then I got the notorious bomb dropped on my head. When I went into the tower it said I lost 42.72 perks. It may just be me but I think that is very wrong considering I killed 5 tigers and still lost all those perks.


not really... if you kill one Tiger in your Tiger, you are awarded ONE perk point.  So, the way I figure it, you were awarded FIVE perk points for the kills on the Tigers and another 2.28 for the kills on the twenty two panzers and the M8.  And you lost your Tiger... Sounds just about right to me.

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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2005, 04:08:32 AM »
I see your points. But I feel if I am in a tiger and I kill a tiger then we're even if I kill another u should get points for that. I have also been in the situation of landing 50+ kills and not getting squat for perk points. I can drive an M3 w/ supplies and get more points even if I die than I do with a tiger. I dunno just doesn't seem right thats all.

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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2005, 05:21:16 AM »
Mate, if people started to make money out of Tigers, there wouldn't be anything else but them!

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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2005, 08:36:44 AM »
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not really... if you kill one Tiger in your Tiger, you are awarded ONE perk point.  So, the way I figure it, you were awarded FIVE perk points for the kills on the Tigers and another 2.28 for the kills on the twenty two panzers and the M8.  And you lost your Tiger... Sounds just about right to me.
your math says 5 + 2.28 which = 7.28

his humbers say 45 - 42.72 = 2.28

where did the perks for the tigers go?
I don't know what to put here yet.

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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2005, 08:55:44 AM »
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your math says 5 + 2.28 which = 7.28

his humbers say 45 - 42.72 = 2.28

where did the perks for the tigers go?



ooops, I need to go back to grade school... :D

well gotta multiply the perk point multiplier to that... sooo, ya perk points earn is less than the math!! :rofl

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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2005, 10:14:55 AM »
LOL wasn't saying you were dumb or anything... if you look at those numbers (especially the .28) something is funny


would a perk multiplier make that number work out perfectly?

i have always considered that whole peek thing suspect with the tiger. i have taken one out, killd 5 or 6 and got killed, lost more perks than the thing cost when i spawned, up to 12-13 perks more than it shoudl have been.

thats why i dont bother with tigers anymore except base defense on an airfield where i KNOW i can land on a runway when the turret is taken out (as generally happens in 1-2 pings for me)
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2005, 11:03:56 AM »
remember if you die the modifier is .5 not 1.25 as it is for a land.. ditch is .75

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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2005, 01:30:36 PM »
You were spawn camping. You had it coming.

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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2005, 01:47:19 PM »
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I see your points. But I feel if I am in a tiger and I kill a tiger then we're even if I kill another u should get points for that. I have also been in the situation of landing 50+ kills and not getting squat for perk points. I can drive an M3 w/ supplies and get more points even if I die than I do with a tiger. I dunno just doesn't seem right thats all.


You died.  If you had made it back to base, you would have gotten your perks back for the Tiger, plus you would have "landed" the perks for your kills as well.  Since you didnt, you LOSE the perks for checking out the Tiger, and add back in whatever you got for your kills.  

Remember then that you get fewer points for kills if you die than you do for kills if you "land" (as has already been mentioned).

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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2005, 05:39:04 PM »
Also dont forget you may have got your tiger when the perk price was 45,  but the perk price dont always stay the same as when you bought it,  if the perk price goes up or down while your in your perk ride your price goes with it.  You spend  45 when you entered your tiger and cost goes up to 50 your now paying 50 perks.   pretty sure im thinking correctly on this.

I've jumped into a 262 and had it go both directions.  spend 200 on 262 then ripp the wings off and realize i just spent 250 perks to see my wings stay in the air longer then me, ( you know when you bail out and land, then look up and your wings are floating down, how cute... not!   lmao!!

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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2005, 08:34:50 AM »
Ya prolly spent 30-45 min gettin all those kills---during that time buncha peeps from your country prolly logged on and changed the perk value
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2005, 09:15:31 AM »
Perk rides don't pay.  But then they aren't designed to. They are designed to let people fly & drive vehicles & planes that were relitively rare.

Example.

You can up a tiffy, go rack up some perks. Live or die either way your gainin perks.  But as soon as you up a tempest, your in the minus category. Your chances of makeing enough perks to repay that bad boy are slim & none.

But thats not why the perk system exists.
Its there so you CAN fly that tempest, and yet not see an arena full of em.

Perk points are kinda like throwing a 10 spot on a blackjack table. You have to accept that the second it hit the table its lost. It just doesn't know it yet.

Granted you MAY get lucky, and get some or part of it back. You MAY actually gain a bit. But in the long run, the house always wins.  When you up a perked plane or vehicle you have to say so-long to those perks. Cause odds are you won't see em again.

 Its just like Vegas, the odds are stacked against you & the house always wins.

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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2005, 09:22:42 AM »
The perk price is set at take off. If it changes during your sortie it does not effect the perks lost when you die.


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