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Offline grunch

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why is p40b so under powered?
« on: March 11, 2005, 09:59:34 PM »
The P-40B was. . .
40 mph faster than the AM6-2 (21) Zero.  
50 mph faster than the Hyabusa, or Ki-43.
70 mph faster than the fixed gear I-96.
195 mph faster than the cruise speed of the Ki-21 Sally.
130 mph faster in a dive than any Japanese fighter.
3 times the roll rate of the Zero.
P-40 was 5 mph faster than the Me 109 E-3 at 15,000 feet
P-40 was 9 mph  faster than the Spitefire Mk.IA at 15,000 feet
The P-40 could out turn the Me. 109 E-3, and could out dive it.
The P-40 was not the dog that everyone seem to think it was.

fact i found reading about the p40b

Offline Stang

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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2005, 10:16:57 PM »
Because if you fly the P40 you're so good you don't need the aircraft to be any good

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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2005, 11:13:08 PM »
p40 is in fact a highly underestimated aircraft.

Offline grunch

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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2005, 12:58:03 AM »
:lol  stang that true hehehe


and yea its under rated man i do notice a zero can out  dive me faster :(

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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2005, 01:34:45 AM »
P40 is one of the only aircrafts in the game in which I can't score kills.

I've tried a couple times and I'm just a sitting target with it.

Even the 202 looks like a fearsome weapon compared to it.

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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2005, 01:57:59 AM »
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Even the 202 looks like a fearsome weapon compared to it.


It is in an interly different performance class than the P40B.

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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2005, 01:58:09 AM »
P40's are ok... as long as you don't stall :D
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2005, 06:15:33 AM »
According to the plane performance data i found P40b is 14mph faster than the A6m2 in aceshigh and has a comfortable 10mph head at every altitude below 20k.

I think the A6m2 in ah2 is pretty fast... might be a tad to fast.

Problem with plane performance data is that it always depends on the actual motor power used and configureation of the aircraft.

All the other aircraft you mention are not in ah2.
So the point is that while p40b might be a tad slow in ah the other aircraft of that time are not implemented and the aircraft produced 2 years later were a lot better. Sure it would be a killer against ki 43, but we dont have the ki 43.

Offline DieAz

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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2005, 06:55:53 AM »
P40s takes awhile to get to speed.
once it is up to speed, it is a nice bird.

I usually grab to around 14k, then level out. it takes almost 1 sector for it to get up to speed. it is a good diver and turner, for a couple turns, anyway.

the slow acceleration is the main reason, it rarely RTBs.

My 1st kill, when AH2 went live, was in a P40b against a P38. I went on and killed a spit, then RTBed. I was the 3rd or 4th one to land kills, at the time.

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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2005, 10:20:48 PM »
I wholeheartedly agree.

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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2005, 11:31:36 PM »
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I wholeheartedly agree.


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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2005, 01:49:18 PM »
OK all, enough!  It use to be very funny when people would compare AH aircraft to their real world counterparts, but now it's just sad...  I'll let you all in on a little secret, so sssshhh!  All the Axis aircraft were GARBAGE!!!!  Now before you all start in on slamming the messenger rather than the message, I can prove that what I'm telling you is true.  In case any of you missed it on the history channel, here's my proof, the Axis powers LOST THE WAR!  
Grunch, I agree with you on the P-40B.  It is a great fighter and like all the Allied aircraft, it is way under modeled in AH as well as in other sims.  I'm sorry to say this, but it has to be that way.  If it were modeled to fly just like a real P-40 then we wouldn't have the fun of shooting down Axis aircraft because no one would be flying that garbage.  Everyone would be flying Allied rides and where's the fun in that?

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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2005, 02:35:07 PM »
Oh come on, I figured this guy would be getting the Rodney King treatment about now:D

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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2005, 02:36:52 PM »
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Originally posted by Nockdown
OK all, enough!  It use to be very funny when people would compare AH aircraft to their real world counterparts, but now it's just sad...  I'll let you all in on a little secret, so sssshhh!  All the Axis aircraft were GARBAGE!!!!  Now before you all start in on slamming the messenger rather than the message, I can prove that what I'm telling you is true.  In case any of you missed it on the history channel, here's my proof, the Axis powers LOST THE WAR!  
Grunch, I agree with you on the P-40B.  It is a great fighter and like all the Allied aircraft, it is way under modeled in AH as well as in other sims.  I'm sorry to say this, but it has to be that way.  If it were modeled to fly just like a real P-40 then we wouldn't have the fun of shooting down Axis aircraft because no one would be flying that garbage.  Everyone would be flying Allied rides and where's the fun in that?

Good Hunting all! :aok


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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2005, 05:04:19 PM »