alternative energy

[Sandman]

Originally posted by JB88
how is hydrogen harnessed into energy?

what are they doing with it now?

http://sln.fi.edu/inquirer/hydrocar.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59890-2005Jan8.html
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.04/hydrogen.html
http://autoadvice.about.com/od/research/a/HydrogenPower.htm

Wikipedia

[john9001]

Originally posted by JB88
how is hydrogen harnessed into energy?

what are they doing with it now?

you can run a piston engine on just about anything the burns, BMW or Mercedes has a prototype running on hydrogen, it uses their conventional piston engine retuned for hydrogen.

[GtoRA2]

Give huge government grants to the Turkey guts to oil company.

(they can use pretty much any garbage including old tires). The goal would be have one of these facilities for every landfill.



Increase Domestic production in all ways tell these facilities were running, then cut back again.


Also give the auto makers large grants to develope cars less oil dependent.
 

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[Thrawn]

Unlike all the commies here, I would cut taxes and trust in people and the private industry to come up with a solution.

[GtoRA2]

Thrawn,
 They are going to take your pinko liberal card away just for thinking about cutting taxes!!

[john9001]

"huge government grants " are taxpayers money.

[GtoRA2]

Gee John you think?


I thought it was magic money.



The government waste our money on all kinds of stuff, at least this way we all may get something out of it in the long run.

[RTStuka]

Well since I have only one day to actually make a difference and 99% of the plans would take more than a day to go into effect, mine would be simple, id nuke the living **** out of the entire middle east and everywhere that was producing more oil than us.

At the end of the day we would be the largest producers of oil and our dependency would be nill. Sure it would spell economic disaster and nuclear holocosts and not to mention that the US doesnt have enough oil for the entire world. But the question was what would I do too decrease dependency on foreigen oil.

[Chairboy]

One problem with hydrogen is that it seems best suited as an energy transportation/storage material, not a fuel.  The energy it takes to produce and bottle hydrogen exceeds the energy you get out of burning it.

There are some cool technologies based on cracking natural gas to extract the hydrogen (which is then used in a fuel cell to generate electricity), but that doesn't really remove the dependancy on oil.  Just interesting stuff.

[JB88]

Originally posted by Thrawn
Unlike all the commies here, I would cut taxes and trust in people and the private industry to come up with a solution.

i agree with this assesment only to the point of granting tax breaks to those who are working toward alternative energy.  

leadership on this issue would be important as well.

in the same way that kennedy inspired a generation to get to the moon, a leader must be passionate in his convictions on the subject to sway the people in its favor.

given a good pep talk...people can do pretty much anything.

if tax breaks helped by virtue of giving it as corporate welfare to organization, it would already be showing signs of major promise.  

there would have to be something which proved to be more advantageous to those who would seek cheap renewable energy v.  staying the course to further cement dependance on non renewable energy sources.

[vorticon]

ban every automobile, except those wimpy scooter things...

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by JB88
in the same way that kennedy inspired a generation to get to the moon, a leader must be passionate in his convictions on the subject to sway the people in its favor.

So people gladfully have their wealth stolen from them.  If you had such a leader than he could persuade people to invest or donate freely.  As far as going to the moon, I'm glad you thought it was a worthy special interest.  But there are people that probably didn't, yet thier wealth got taken to support it anyway.

It's about having free choice to dispose of your wealth as you see fit, not as someone else sees fit.

When demand for alternative energy sources grows more people will invest in it as the chance of a better return increases.  This is assuming the government doesn't steal that money and misallocate it because they think they "know better".

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by JB88
if you were king for one day... (no...not the thomson twins song...and if you got that...well, youre old.)

what would you do to decrease dependance on foriegn oil?

Simple. I'd make places like Saudi arabia. Iraq and Iran part of the USA.

then the oil wouldnt be foriegn anymore

[Skydancer]

Up the spend on development of Hydrogen powered vehicles and provide incentives for manufacturers to do so. Plus develop Hydrogen tech so it can be retro fitted to current vehicles. Plu put LPG pumps on every forecourt.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Thrawn
So people gladfully have their wealth stolen from them.  If you had such a leader than he could persuade people to invest or donate freely.  As far as going to the moon, I'm glad you thought it was a worthy special interest.  But there are people that probably didn't, yet thier wealth got taken to support it anyway.

It's about having free choice to dispose of your wealth as you see fit, not as someone else sees fit.

When demand for alternative energy sources grows more people will invest in it as the chance of a better return increases.  This is assuming the government doesn't steal that money and misallocate it because they think they "know better".

Ummm whos wealth was stolen to support the Space/moon project?

I found it. and the various spinoffs we got from it. Well worth the investment.