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Offline kevykev56

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« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2005, 06:20:05 PM »
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what would you do to decrease dependance on foriegn oil?



Genetic engineer a nasty disease that wipes out %50 of the worlds population. That would reduce everyones dependancy, and I could ride my motorcycle without all this stinking traffic!!!
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« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2005, 07:49:29 PM »
Invade several oil rich Arab nations, throw all the people out, nationalize the land and oil, then it would be ours and we wouldnt have to consider it "foreign oil".  :lol

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« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2005, 08:04:59 PM »
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Ummm whos wealth was stolen to support the Space/moon project?

I found it. and the various spinoffs we got from it. Well worth the investment.


So you think.  What you aren't seeing is all the spinoffs from private investment into technologies that there was an actual market demand for.  You don't see because it never happened.  It never happened because that wealth for investment into things that were commerially viable was taken to fund a few landings on the moon.  If was so economically beneficial to the US for it to go to the moon why did it stop going?

The irony is that the US went to the moon in game of one-up-manship with the commies.  And did it not through capitalist means, but through commienism.

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« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2005, 08:07:43 PM »
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Invade several oil rich Arab nations, throw all the people out, nationalize the land and oil, then it would be ours and we wouldnt have to consider it "foreign oil".  :lol

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« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2005, 09:20:34 PM »
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So people gladfully have their wealth stolen from them.  If you had such a leader than he could persuade people to invest or donate freely.  As far as going to the moon, I'm glad you thought it was a worthy special interest.  But there are people that probably didn't, yet thier wealth got taken to support it anyway.

It's about having free choice to dispose of your wealth as you see fit, not as someone else sees fit.

When demand for alternative energy sources grows more people will invest in it as the chance of a better return increases.  This is assuming the government doesn't steal that money and misallocate it because they think they "know better".


i was meant the caliber of inspiration.  not neccessarilly tax money.  someone suggested tax breaks to companies that develope these things.  i think thats an idea too.

the problem wont get solved by paying alot of attention to the people who either refuse to accept that there is a problem or that dont want to contribute in any way.

imho.

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« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2005, 09:31:42 PM »
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It will be funnier the fourth time around.




I think that was the 4th time.

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« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2005, 09:43:10 PM »
Actually, Hydrogen has a reasonably bright future thanks to Algea.  No need to burn oil for it anymore.

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« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2005, 09:45:09 PM »
btw...i would much rather see my tax money being spent on a constructive rethinking of our national addictions than many of the other things that are being done with it.

i have no problem with social safety nets either...it is reasonable that a society establish protections for its people, whether all need it or not.

how many poor does it take to make a man rich i wonder?

i dont like the abuse of it either but i think that strides have been taken to repair welfare and other programs and that they will continue to be revamped.

they were put in place for a reason and we have done pretty well with them so far.

and no, i am not a commie.  i believe in a flat tax and a fixed national sales tax.

the flat tax levels the playing field without leveling the players and the national sales tax gives the government inspiration to promote commerce.  by making it fixed, it is like putting the government on a budget.

i believe that these should be written to a constitutional amendment and ratified.  set percentage.  period.  make due with it...make it work.

just an aside.  sorry.  

(another thing that i would do if i were king for a day)
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« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2005, 09:46:38 PM »
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Actually, Hydrogen has a reasonably bright future thanks to Algea.  No need to burn oil for it anymore.


Not necessarily true, you have to get engery from somewhere to separate the hydrogen from the water.


"I think that was the 4th time."

...and wasn't it hilarious?!

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« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2005, 10:08:00 PM »
dumb question maybe...but what about geothermal energy?  

it seems reasonable to conclude that we could dig down far enough to harness that too...or could we.  again, i know nothing...
but i wonder if that has ever been seriously considered?
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« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2005, 10:17:15 PM »
Yeah, a real knee slapper. :)

If I were king for a day, I'd loot the joint. Energy is way too complicated and there just isn't time.

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« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2005, 10:18:46 PM »
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Not necessarily true, you have to get engery from somewhere to separate the hydrogen from the water.


"I think that was the 4th time."

...and wasn't it hilarious?!


Not from what I hear..  

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« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2005, 10:18:50 PM »
lol nash.

ye of little faith.

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« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2005, 11:21:06 PM »
Start a nuclear war with the rest of the world.

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« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2005, 11:51:59 PM »
Someday someone will solve all our problems by harnessing the engery wasted on BBS discussions.