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« Reply #45 on: March 13, 2005, 08:37:11 PM »
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Sorry but I dont think 'you need men' is accurate.

Ive met women who could've whipped my sorry bellybutton BAD with little effort.

There be strong girls out there man.

I think a certain standard should be made... like be able to lift a certain weight and/or hit with certain force along with endurance tests.

The last thing id want, as someone else already put it, is to find myself as a civilian in a dangerous situation and seeing that the person who'se job is to save me be a scrawny, wimpy guy/girl that my arthritic 98 year old grandma could woop with her walking stick.



In  San Francisco they lowered the standards, both on the written exam and the physical exam, in order to attract more women and minorities into the SFPD and SFFD. In fact the previous standards were called "too stringent" "discriminatory" and "exclusionist" by the Board of Supes and then Mayor, Dianne Fienstein.

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« Reply #46 on: March 13, 2005, 09:25:52 PM »
They can't hear you, Airhead. I have it from an inside source you're on their "ignore" list...

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« Reply #47 on: March 13, 2005, 11:06:31 PM »
HA!  Nash, that was the most intelligent thing You've ever said!

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« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2005, 03:32:53 AM »
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There are many civil rights cases were a all white jury aquitted a defendant in a state trial and then were tried in federal court for "Violation of Civil Rights".  

It's what helped to bring down the Klan.

Apparently the dead do have the right to justice.



Indeed, but rights protect us from government, not from criminals.  Tossing out rights doesn't help the victim any, but it does hurt eveyone.



PS: Airhead, you're not really ignoring anyone if you keep on talking about how you're ignoring them.

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« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2005, 08:31:14 AM »
oio.. Ihave never seen a woman that I thought could kick my butt and certainly not one who could wrestle me down without using leathal force.  

Every time some guy who watches TV or movie heroins says this it makes me wonder what is going on...  The "worlds fittest woman" got pissed at that big old slob joey buttafuco (or however it's spelled) and climbed into the ring with him..

He slaugtered her.   he was huffing and puffing from the effort of getting into the ring and then off his stool... he could barely walk and he beat the living crap out of her..  That is the reality of it.   That is why you don't see intergender footbal or boxing.

sixpense... I don't want a 5'3" man on the force either or one who has let himself go to pot.  still... a 5'3" man is preferable to a 5'3" woman.

It should be a requirement of the job to be fit and have real tests that an above average fit 50 year old man can pass with a lot of effort.   They get paid enough and retire at around 50 with most of their salaries.  
If not... put em on dissability or behind a desk.

mostly, the arguement for having women boils down to looking progressive and being liberal... the reasons it is ok vary from... women are just as good as men to.... they work fine if they all have male partners or lots of backup.

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« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2005, 11:57:23 AM »
Is this killer slick or what?  Trying now for a prison ministry life sentence instead of the death penalty he deserves if ever a person  on this Earth deserved one.  

Wouldn't be surprised if he gets ONLY a life sentence and maybe even parole too.  

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Police Praise Mother as 'Very Cool and Levelheaded'
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Ashley Smith says she cooked pancakes for suspect Brian Nichols as she urged him to surrender.
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ATLANTA (March 14) - For hours, Ashley Smith gently talked to the armed suspect in Atlanta's courthouse slayings, turning from hostage to confidant as they discussed God, family, pancakes and the massive manhunt going on outside her apartment.

''I believe God brought him to my door,'' Smith said Sunday, only hours after her 911 call ended a manhunt for Brian Nichols, who is accused of shooting four people since Friday.

Over the course of the night, Nichols untied Smith, and some of the fear lessened as they talked. Nichols told Smith he felt like ''he was already dead,'' but Smith urged him to consider the fact that he was still alive a ''miracle.''

''You're here in my apartment for some reason,'' she told him, saying he might be destined to be caught and to spread the word of God to fellow prisoners. She told him his escape from authorities had been a ''miracle.''

Smith, 33, later called 911 after she was freed, and police soon surrounded her suburban apartment complex. Nichols gave up peacefully, waving a white towel in surrender.

''I honestly think when I looked at him that he didn't want to do it anymore,'' Smith said. If he did not give up, she told him, ''Lots more people are probably going get hurt and you're probably going to die.''

Police said they were impressed by the way Smith handled herself.

''She acted very cool and levelheaded. We don't normally see that in our profession,'' said Gwinnett County Police Officer Darren Moloney. ''It was an absolutely best-case scenario that happened, a complete opposite of what you expected to happen. We were prepared for the worst and got the best.''

The crime spree began when Nichols allegedly overpowered a courthouse deputy escorting him to his rape trial Friday and took the deputy's gun, then killed the presiding judge and court reporter. He also is accused of killing a deputy who tried to stop him outside the courthouse and a federal agent during his flight from authorities.

Smith said her ordeal began around 2 a.m. Saturday morning with Nichols sticking a gun in her side in the parking lot of her apartment when she returned from a store.

   
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He tied her up and told her to sit in the bathroom while he took a shower. ''He said, 'I'm not going to hurt you if you just do what I say,''' she said. He told her: ''I don't want to hurt you. I don't want to hurt anybody else.''

Choking back tears Sunday, she said she told Nichols that her husband died four years ago and if he hurt her, her little girl wouldn't have a mother or father. Smith's attorney, Josh Archer, said her husband died in her arms after being stabbed.

The two talked about the Bible and she handed him photos of her family. When morning came, Nichols was ''overwhelmed'' when Smith made him pancakes with real butter, she said. He told her he ''just wanted some normalness to his life,'' she said.

The two watched television news reports about the slayings and the manhunt. ''I cannot believe that's me on there,'' Smith quoted Nichols as saying.

When Nichols finally let Smith go to see her 5-year-old daughter, he said he wanted to stay at the apartment for a few more days. She said she thought he knew she was going to call 911 after she left.

Nichols could appear in federal court as early as Monday to face a charge of possession of a firearm by a person under indictment, the charge authorities are using to keep Nichols in custody while they sort out charging in the slayings, said U.S. Attorney David Nahmias.

The Fulton County District Attorney's Office hopes to formally charge Nichols with the new crimes within 30 days, spokesman Erik Friedly said Sunday. Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard still would like to resolve Nichols' interrupted rape retrial.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported Monday that a courthouse surveillance camera recorded Nichols' initial surprise attack on Deputy Cynthia Hall but that no one in the control center noticed the assault.

   
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''It's not just horrible, it was preventable,'' Senior Superior Court Judge Philip Etheridge told the newspaper.

A video camera, which is supposed to be monitored by two guards in a command post, shows Nichols and the deputy arriving in the holding area between two courtrooms, according to a law enforcement official who saw the tape. The video shows Hall guiding Nichols, whose hands are still handcuffed behind his back, into one of two open cells.

Hall releases one cuff and turns Nichols around to unhook the remaining cuff. But the muscular, 33-year-old Nichols then lunges at Hall, knocking the petite, 51-year-old grandmother backward into another cell. Both disappear from camera view. Two to three minutes later, Nichols emerges from the cell, holding Hall's gun belt and police radio. He picks up her keys from the floor and locks her in the cell.

A few minutes later, he emerges in civilian clothes. He locks the door behind him and calmly walks out of the holding area, carrying the gun belt, according to the official who saw the tape.

Judge Etheridge said Hall should not have been alone with Nichols, a former college linebacker who had been found with two sharpened door hinges in his socks earlier in the week.

Hall remained in critical condition Sunday, Grady Memorial Hospital officials said. Killed were Superior Court Judge Rowland Barnes, court reporter Julie Brandau, Sgt. Hoyt Teasley and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent David Wilhelm.


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