Teacher Salaries

[Vudak]

I'm actually going to school to become a teacher, hopefully a High School History teacher...  Hopefully at the same high school I was permanently banned from going to the office at...  That whole "Circle of Life" thing, ya know

The one thing I've got going for me is I go to Central CT State University, which really does have one of the best "teacher schools" in the country, believe it or not.  I've heard graduating from Central really helps cut through a lot of redtape that you'd normally have applying in various states with degrees from other schools.

The pay will suck, sure.  But I figure if I marry another teacher we could at least survive.  Maybe not have the nicest things and all, but I'd be doing something I love (wait a minute...  yer gonna PAY me to read about history? ), I'd actually be able to sleep well at night (work for a law firm now), and I could pretty much choose which part of the country I'd like to live in.

Hopefully, I'll make it more than 5 years >shrug<

[oboe]

VUdak and Eskimo, and all the other teachers.  Considering the importance of your work, its a shame the salary isn't better.

[Skydancer]

It seems this is international. It annoys the hell out of me that in our societies, those who make money are valued far higher than those who help form people!

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Shuckins
A teacher's salary provides a family with a fair, and only fair, secondary income.

But if you took that salary and figured how much they would make if they worked year round. It in many cases would easily be a nice primary salary.

They only work a little more then half the year so honesty they get little pity from me.

If your in it for the money then I suggest ya find a new line of work

[rabbidrabbit]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
Good point but flawed.  Teaching requires a 4 year college degree in most cases.  Their equivilant in the military would be a comissioned officer who makes ALOT more than most teachers.

It's sad but true people don't want to teach becaues of the money.

O1     2nd Lieutenant     2 years or less     $26,204.40

That does not seem like much more to me.  You put in at least twice the hours and risk life and limb as well.  I'm not saying you can compare the two jobs side by side since they are apples and oranges.  I'm simply pointing out that teachers are not that bad off comparatively.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
O1     2nd Lieutenant     2 years or less     $26,204.40

That does not seem like much more to me.  You put in at least twice the hours and risk life and limb as well.  I'm not saying you can compare the two jobs side by side since they are apples and oranges.  I'm simply pointing out that teachers are not that bad off comparatively.

That's just the base pay. You have to consider all the other things that the military provides... food, housing, health care, etc.

[rabbidrabbit]

true enough but that can be subjective..

When I was Infantry most of the time my housing consisted of my sleeping bag, my food was MRE's when available and my health care was the battalion aid station.

[lazs2]

It's a darn good part time job.

lazs

[Sandman]

Originally posted by lazs2
It's a darn good part time job.

lazs

I dunno... I can't see the point of spending four to five years in school to get a part-time job.

[Rolex]

To be honest, I don't think current military pay is too low.

An average 37 year-old O-5 has a lifestyle equivalent to a civilian counterpart making over $100,000 per year. Housing, complete family medical, dental and eye care, taxpayer supported and tax free commissary and exchange and recreation facilities (golf courses, bowling, swimming pools, state-of-the-art fitness centers) only base pay is subject to income tax, etc.

Fort Ord has a better golf course than Pebble Beach, for heaven's sake.

I know an overseas stationed O-6 who clears $12,000 month and is taxed on only 1/3rd of that and still lives rent free in a magnificant home (some would say a mansion). Sheesh, every one star (do you how many flag rank officers there are?) even has a government paid maid now. They are bloody aristocrats.

Not a bad life now. When I was in, we got paid in cash every month, it was so little.

[rabbidrabbit]

Your numbers are off Rolex.  The pay increase isn't all that much from pay grade to paygrade.

[lasersailor184]

Sandman, you work 7-3 every week day.  You always have weekends off.  You always have holidays off, even if it's some wierd remote hindu holiday.  You have a spring break, you have a winter break, you have a thanksgiving break.  You have an entire summer off.  And you get paid like you were working the whole year.


This ain't no 3-8pm part time grocery store clerk we're talking about.

[Sandman]

When I got out of the Navy twelve years ago, they provided a pay and benefit calculator. The purpose was to determine what an equitable salary would be in the civilian job market. I was an E-6, married, two kids, and living in a house on base.

The amount was approximately $35K per year.

I got out and took a job for $36K per year with no apparent change to my standard of living.

[Rolex]

It isn't pay. Base pay is what is taxed. Allowances are not taxed. Flight pay, housing allowances, cost of living allowances, dependent allowances, separate rations (in the old days) etc.

How much would private 100% health insurance  for a family of four cost per month? Let's say $300. You would have to earn $450 before taxes to have $300 left to pay the monthly bill.

How much for 100% dental?

How much for prescriptions?

How much for housing?

See how it works when you add it up?


{patiently waiting for someone to say, "family of 4 health insurance for only $300 per month? Are you nuts?...   }

[Sandman]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Sandman, you work 7-3 every week day.  You always have weekends off.  You always have holidays off, even if it's some wierd remote hindu holiday.  You have a spring break, you have a winter break, you have a thanksgiving break.  You have an entire summer off.  And you get paid like you were working the whole year.


This ain't no 3-8pm part time grocery store clerk we're talking about.

No question... if it's a part-time gig, it's one of the best ones out there.