Teacher Salaries

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Shuckins

How many of you seriously considered a career as a teacher, but changed your mind because of the opportunity to earn more money elsewhere?

Both the wife and I did that.

[edit] Also; I didn't think I could put up with the little bastards. [/edit]

-Sik

[rabbidrabbit]

Originally posted by Rolex
It isn't pay. Base pay is what is taxed. Allowances are not taxed. Flight pay, housing allowances, cost of living allowances, dependent allowances, separate rations (in the old days) etc.

How much would private 100% health insurance  for a family of four cost per month? Let's say $300. You would have to earn $450 before taxes to have $300 left to pay the monthly bill.

How much for 100% dental?

How much for prescriptions?

How much for housing?

See how it works when you add it up?


{patiently waiting for someone to say, "family of 4 health insurance for only $300 per month? Are you nuts?...   }

I know what your saying rolex, what I'm saying is that those don't add up as much as you think.  I just have to look at my wifes Paystub  to tell you that.  As far as pay being comparable it all depends.  For example, as a Resident my wife makes more than civilians do.  Once she passes her last exams after residency she will make 1/2 to 1/3rd of what she would make as a civilian.  It all depends on what you are comparing.

[Lye-El]

Originally posted by Rolex

Fort Ord has a better golf course than Pebble Beach, for heaven's sake.

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I thought they closed Fort Ord years ago but kept Hunter Ligget open.

[Skydancer]

Drediok you say

"They only work a little more then half the year so honesty they get little pity from me"

Now I don't know about the US, but that statement is not true. teaching is not just the time you spend in the classroom. There is marking papers, preparing the curriculum, research, SATs, monitoring and evaluation parent evenings, meetings, school outings and trips ( residentials) etc.

I was married to a primary school teacher. She would be in school by 7-30am to prepare the work for the day. She would get home at 5-30pm. Eat then maybe an hour to unwind then she would work till 11-00pm/12-00am marking papers, childrens work etc.

Thats a bloody long day by anyone's standards. As for the so called long holidays. All but a few days of these were taken up by preparing the next terms curriculum. On top of that the Govt dept of education would constantly shift the goal posts meaning that the curriculum would always have to be changed.

So That statement about teaching being a part time job is frankly a load of cr*p.

[Rolex]

You're right about the medical field, rabbit^2. Big difference there.

And i should have typed 'had' a better golf course.

Speaking of golf courses, have you seen the proposed new carrier? The USS Bill Clinton

[rabbidrabbit]

it still needs the fluff girls running about...>

[ChickenHawk]

You guys who say teaching is a part time job have got a pretty short sighted view of teaching.  My dad has been a teacher for over 30 years now and he is the hardest working man I know.

Like Skydancer said, time spent at school is not all a teacher is required to do.  There is grading and lesson plans that take up a great deal of time.  And the end of the quarter always requred late nights.

I can't speak for other schools but my dad was required to be at school a couple weeks before school starts and a couple after, so it was a short summer.  The summer was spent planning for next year and taking classes required to keep his certification.  What little time was left was spent working construction, demolition or any other job he could get to make ends meet.

Like Eskimo is doing for his family, I was raised in a single income family.  We pinched pennys all through my childhood but it was a great childhood and I wouldn't trade it for all the money in the world.

He made such an impression on me that I too am raising a family on one income.  Keep up the good work Eskimo.  It's hard but it's the right thing to do.

[senna]

teachers are so under appreciated sometimes, sigh.

[Trell]

Im sorry But at least in Michigan, Teachers are not underpaid.  When you take into the amount of time /days they work, and there amazing benifits  They work out great.

25,000 to start?  i know lots of people that are out of school that make that starting off.  I would like to know how much these teachers make after 10+ years of working.   what about what they retire with, and what they get after that?  Holidays?,  most people i know work holidays,  we dont get weeks off at a time for holidays,  unless you work for the big 3,  you are expected to work them.

[Trell]

Originally posted by ChickenHawk
You guys who say teaching is a part time job have got a pretty short sighted view of teaching.  My dad has been a teacher for over 30 years now and he is the hardest working man I know.

Like Skydancer said, time spent at school is not all a teacher is required to do.  There is grading and lesson plans that take up a great deal of time.  And the end of the quarter always requred late nights.

Umm i dont know about the rest of you,  but I dont know many people that only work 9-5.  most people work from home after they leave work.  and working on vacations is normal for some people i know....


At most companys i have worked for,  salery people work 50 hours min. alot of times more...

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Trell
Umm i dont know about the rest of you,  but I dont know many people that only work 9-5.  most people work from home after they leave work.  and working on vacations is normal for some people i know....


At most companys i have worked for,  salery people work 50 hours min. alot of times more...

Wow, I'm a lot more fortunate than I ever thought!

-Sik

[OIO]

Yeah, teachers should get paid minimum $80k a year.


Its the *most* important job there is.

[Manedew]

Teachers get paid crap ... i've knowen quite few that get an education degree and give up teaching for such bull....and because some of them spend all thier time teaching state required tests, and never get to 'teach'... there's many reasons it's screwd up, the whole education system ... fact is noone really cares on a large scale ... only localy do you get that .... Damn FED's

Most other balcholer degrees I can think of typicaly pays ton's more than a public school teacher will ever get ....  Why would you want to goto college and be a teacher..... to service society? Becuase you love it?  Only so many saints in the world........

[Maverick]

Those of you who think teaching is a part time job just because of the school year should go try it sometime. I've done it and I found that t6he full time job working 48 to 50 weeks a year was by far easier. It also didn't require continuing education at one of the highest rates available for graduate classes.

Here's a challenge for you. If you have a Bachelors degree take some time and try substitute teaching for a while. You will be surprised how many jobs there are. You will be absolutely shocked at the conditions teachers face with the lil' darlings in school. For a REAL treat, do it in middle school.

[Skydancer]

Maverik

Applause for you mate. People who slate teachers, just don't know what they are on about. The hardest job I ever did. Mind you I was working with kids in the care system. So they had mutiple behaviour, psychological problems to add to all the other stuff a teacher deals with.

My advise to anyone criticising the proffession is go try it. You'll soon change your mind.

( good job I didn't teach English )