Hmmmmm....
Noticed some more stuff. Was still having some strange video lockups. Would have rows of images overlapping and going down the screen. Can't tell you what they were happened too fast. Refreshing set too high?
Was thinking it might be heat related. Had this problem before.
Soooo... Went into device manager and deleted the joystick drivers, and the joystick ports in safe mode as per the creative suggestions.
The system restored these things only patially later and had to do it again out of safe mod.
When it finally got everything working, instead of having 4 drivers under creative for the joystick I now have only 3.
So far no video lockups. Strange....