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Offline DREDIOCK

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« on: March 18, 2005, 08:47:12 AM »
"Throughout time there has been one creature recorded in the legends of every world culture.
were they imagined, or real?"

May be a myth, but still looks like a fun watch

DRAGONS

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Some really great special effects
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2005, 08:51:22 AM »
hmmmm...

I say rogue Teredactyls with a severa case of indigestion are to blame.
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2005, 11:38:45 AM »
komodo dragon
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2005, 11:53:52 AM »
lol.

you guys see the part:

'deep in the mountains of carpathia' ... yada yada yada... 'found the frozen, preserved remains of a dragon' ...


reminds me of a B rated godzilla clone movie from the 80's..cant remember the name now :P
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2005, 01:03:12 PM »
Peter Jackson (of LOTR) said something brilliant.

For there to be a real dragon, the wings in proportion to the body mass must be huge.  


Also, it would have to eat a lot of food just to be able to fly.
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2005, 04:09:33 PM »
Does raise an interesting question though if you think about it.
There are legends of winged dragons all over the world with civilisations that had no contact with one another.
keeping that in mind
Where does a common myth like this get started? and How?

The only thing I can think of is they were finding dinosaur bones and such and putting two and two together..
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2005, 04:11:06 PM »
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Peter Jackson (of LOTR) said something brilliant.

For there to be a real dragon, the wings in proportion to the body mass must be huge.  


 


You mean kinda likea bumble bee?
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2005, 04:26:39 PM »
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Does raise an interesting question though if you think about it.
There are legends of winged dragons all over the world with civilisations that had no contact with one another.
keeping that in mind
Where does a common myth like this get started? and How?

The only thing I can think of is they were finding dinosaur bones and such and putting two and two together..



 I watched a show on the history channel about this, one thing is alot of civilizations had more contact with each other than we usually believe. They mentioned that even an animal as normal to us as an alligator would have looked pretty strange to knights that were on crusades out of England. Then take into account the fact that people like legends (just look at your buddies latest fish stories).
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2005, 04:38:59 PM »
the bumblebee is still a SMALL creature, very VERY light body and insects have proven to be able to lift several hundred times their own weight.

When you get to larger sizes your weight increases to the point where the muscles needed to lift you will end up weighing more than the limit... which is why birds have hollow bones and dont exceed a certain size (I think the condor is the biggest bird and its still pretty small).

Heck even the pterodactyl  was only about 30 inches long.

A dragon if it existed as the tales say, would be elephant sized or bigger creatures... even with hollow bones they wouldnt be able to fly.
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2005, 05:13:51 PM »
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Komodo Dragons dont come close to the mythical dragon imo. They dont breath fire, not as big as a house, and they dont fly. Far more importantly though, Komodo Dragons dont hoard treasure. :D
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2005, 05:15:38 PM »
OIO,

There is a species of sea eagle that has a wingspan around 10 ft.  Damn big birds, and I think they're bigger than condors.  I can't remember exactly what species they are though.
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2005, 05:21:07 PM »
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I watched a show on the history channel about this, one thing is alot of civilizations had more contact with each other than we usually believe. They mentioned that even an animal as normal to us as an alligator would have looked pretty strange to knights that were on crusades out of England. Then take into account the fact that people like legends (just look at your buddies latest fish stories).


speaking of which I was doing a quick websearch on this  and found this.

Gotta say purdy durn interesting.


Dunno if ancient American Indians had contact with Ancient Egyptians though.

Although I do remember hearing someplace that American mollusk shells have been found in Egyptian ruins

Could this be the origin of the dragon myths?

And not trying to get off onto a religeous debate but wouldnt this kinda do damage to the evolution theory?
Unless man and dinosaurs managed to walk the earth at the same time

How did cavemen and the ancients know what dinosaurs looked like?

Anyway you slice it and no matter which way you lean some interesting reading complete with photos

http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/ancient.htm
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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2005, 05:23:18 PM »
At least 60 genera of Pterosaurs have been found with sizes ranging from a sparrow to monsters with a wingspan in excess of 40 feet.

http://www.paleodirect.com/ptero1.htm


Eagl, Andean Condors have a wingspan of 10 feet. There is also an Albatross that is quite large. (Forget the wingspan atm though)
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2005, 05:23:52 PM »
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the bumblebee is still a SMALL creature, very VERY light body and insects have proven to be able to lift several hundred times their own weight.

When you get to larger sizes your weight increases to the point where the muscles needed to lift you will end up weighing more than the limit... which is why birds have hollow bones and dont exceed a certain size (I think the condor is the biggest bird and its still pretty small).

Heck even the pterodactyl  was only about 30 inches long.

A dragon if it existed as the tales say, would be elephant sized or bigger creatures... even with hollow bones they wouldnt be able to fly.


Actually they are suppost to have some kind of expert explain how it could have been biologically possible for these creatures to exist.

Should be an interesting show and at least amusing if nothing else.

Something to watch with the 8 year old that I wont mind watching for a change lol
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2005, 05:34:54 PM »
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Heck even the pterodactyl  was only about 30 inches long.

 


Discovered in 1971 this Pterosaur is
currently on display at the Texas Memorial Museum

Wing span about 40 feet

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