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« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2005, 12:47:00 PM »
"to the British Virgin Islands where he will dump my ashes over the wreck of the R.M.S Rhone."

interesting choice.. may we know why? if its not too personal that is.

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« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2005, 12:54:07 PM »
MT is right on the mark.  I agree totally.  Without the "miracles" of modern medicine, this woman's suffering would have ended long ago...

As I said in an earlier post, death is not always a curse.  Instead of just allowing nature to take its' course, some of us have got to make a morality issue out of her condition.    

This isn't about what her husband wants or her parents want but about what is right for her.   She's been in this state for 15 years for Heaven's sake!  How much longer must she endure this before someone decides that enough is enough and ALLOWS her to die?

By the way, did you realize that most of us who live to be elderly will eventually die of starvation?  It isn't just a cliche when you hear someone state that an elderly friend or parent "wasted away."  Debilitating illnesses often rob the aged of the ability and the desire to eat...so they starve to death.

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« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2005, 07:43:12 PM »
Anyone done any real researching of the claims that hubby Mike beat the krap out of her and doesn't want her talking ever again?


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The main evidence comes from a bone scan taken on March 5, 1991. As Terri’s guardian, Michael Schiavo denied her family access to Terri’s records, the results of which were not made available until November, 2002. This scan indicated numerous broken bones in various stages of healing, including compressions fractures, a broken back, pelvis, ankle, bone bruises and ossifications.

Board certified radiologist Dr. Walker read the scan in 1991 and interpreted the results as abnormal, which he attributed to either an accident or earlier trauma. Based on the remodeling process of her bones, Dr. Walker stated in his deposition that a) the injuries indicated by the scan occurred on or around the time that Terri Schiavo collapsed; b) the abnormalities on the bone scan were not typical of someone suffering cardiac arrest and collapsing to the floor, and c) the fractures indicated by the bone scan are not typical of patients bedridden only thirteen months.

As recorded in Dr. Walker’s November 21, 2003 deposition, Terri might have been the victim of foul play via a blow to her body, being thrown into a sharp furniture corner, or assaulted with a blunt object



Apparently, he also wants the body cremated immediately, no autopsy.

Things that can make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2005, 08:20:04 PM »
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Anyone done any real researching of the claims that hubby Mike beat the krap out of her and doesn't want her talking ever again?

Apparently, he also wants the body cremated immediately, no autopsy.

Things that can make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


I wonder if the family could sue for wrongful death in civil court?

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« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2005, 12:24:41 AM »
"U.S. Congress poised to intervene in right-to-die case
Last Updated Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:36:45 EST
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CRAWFORD, TEXAS - The U.S. president is interrupting a vacation to fly to Washington on Sunday so he can be available to sign emergency legislation that will keep a brain-damaged Florida woman alive.

President George W. Bush's abrupt change of schedule was announced late Saturday after the House and Senate agreed on the legislation, which would put Terri Schiavo back on a feeding tube while a federal court hears her case.

On Friday, a judge ordered the tube removed from the 41-year-old, who has been in what doctors call a persistent vegetative state for 15 years. Without the tube, she will die within two weeks.

Members of the House hope to approve the legislation in a special session on Sunday. Bush decided he needed to interrupt his spring break in Texas so he could immediately sign the bill, White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

"Everyone recognizes that time is important here," McClellan told reporters in Texas.

"This is about defending life."

The legislation echoes a Senate bill passed Thursday that would let a federal court review Florida state Judge George Greer's ruling in the Schiavo case.  

Schiavo's husband, Michael, says she told him she would not want to be kept alive artificially, and he has been fighting in Florida courts for years for the right to remove her tube.

Her parents disagree that was her wish and say she could improve with proper treatment. They have the support of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and many politicians, especially in the Republican Party.

Federal judges have twice turned down efforts by the parents to move the case out of Florida courts, citing a lack of jurisdiction.

Schiavo's feeding tube has been removed twice before, but later reinserted."


http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/03/19/schiavo-legislation050319.html

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« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2005, 01:41:21 AM »
since when have tax dollars been expected to work?

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« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2005, 08:28:19 AM »
The 10th Amendment

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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


Now how can anyone possibly argue that the Civil War was all about State's rights, and still think this (The Schaibo law) is a legitimate action by the Congress?

Careful where you step, it might be in your own BS.

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« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2005, 09:28:19 AM »
just another reason I am happy I vote Republican

WTG Bush!

no one's mentioned the scumbag hubby's gf and kid now have they?

wonder why.. He can't possibly want her dead for personal reasons could he?
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« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2005, 09:31:46 AM »
I vote Republican too...but this is a bad decision.

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« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2005, 09:36:41 AM »
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I vote Republican too...but this is a bad decision.


why?

does the gov only state when you  can kill? not when you can provide life?

You actually believe the hubby when he states it is his wife's wish to die?

I think it is his

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living will - without one you are screwed
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« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2005, 09:40:23 AM »
I vote for who I think is best and I'm against this.

GtoRA2 if the husband was the scumbag you claimed and he was doing this just for the money then why did he offer to donate the rest of the money to a charity of her parents chosing? Why did he turn down $10 million to turn over rights to her to her parents?

No matter what the reasons are this in no way had anything to do with Congress OR Bush.

I just hope the Federal Judge has the brains AND balls to deny the case.
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« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2005, 09:43:29 AM »
The 10th Amendment


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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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Ah yeas- States rights are a valued Republican tenant- unless we're talking about gay marriage, abortion, or removing a feeding tube- in those cases States Rights are superceeded by Feds.

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« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2005, 10:26:39 AM »
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Now how can anyone possibly argue that the Civil War was all about State's rights, and still think this (The Schaibo law) is a legitimate action by the Congress?

Careful where you step, it might be in your own BS.


Since the Civil War, where States Rights were essentially discarded, that part of the Consitution has been nearly disregarded.

If you started to list all the area in which the Federal government has grabbed authority that was not expressly granted to them by the Consitution, the list would turn this into the biggest thread in history.
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« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2005, 10:43:09 AM »
"Bills of attainder, ex post facto laws, and laws impairing the obligations of contracts, are contrary to the first principles of the social compact, and to every principle of sound legislation. ... The sober people of America are weary of the fluctuating policy which has directed the public councils.  They have seen with regret and indignation that sudden changes and legislative interferences, in cases affecting personal rights, become jobs in the hands of enterprising and influential speculators, and snares to the more-industrious and less-informed part of the community."
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« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2005, 12:02:10 PM »
please post a link to the name of the person who offered $10 million to the hubby

I don't think there is one. Someone recently offered him a million but I think the 10 big ones was never named, maybe cause it never happened?
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