Author Topic: Tiger Vs. T34 (Read 1331 times)

SunTracker · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2005, 05:14:15 PM »

M5 Stuart destroying Tiger tank

Dennis Riva, a fellow tank buff, remembers the wartime story of an M5A1 light tank veteran, whose vehicle came across a Tiger II tank traveling in a ravine between two small hills. The light tank was quickly moved onto the rise paralledl and above the Tiger. The crew of the light tank then fired four to five rounds of 37mm ammo into the Tiger’s thin upper rear engine deck. As the smoke started to pour out of the Tiger’s engine the German crew took flight.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #16 on:** March 21, 2005, 05:40:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
Out flanking the tiger is irrelivent. I dont think the in game T34 can kill it from the rear or side from 10 feet. Which is incorrect as far as I know.

It would very a close call for the T34 76mm to penetrate 80mm from any real range, maybe with special AP rounds?

iKo · « **Reply #17 on:** March 21, 2005, 07:06:00 PM »

Like I said the Tiger can be out flanked if the turret moves slow like in real life and the tanks didnt take so long to start moveing from spawn!!!!!!!!!!!! This is what the sherman tanks did and hit them from like 60 yrs out...

Drunky · « **Reply #18 on:** March 21, 2005, 07:51:08 PM »

This is stupid.

When someone spawncamps then I up a Stuka with 4,000kgs. Only idiots keep upping from a spawncamped vh. Just like the idiots that up from a vulched base and b1tch about it.

SunTracker · « **Reply #19 on:** March 21, 2005, 09:24:13 PM »

Tiger could lock one track and perform a 360 by moving around its axis. Sherman tanks could not do this.

Grits · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2005, 09:35:04 PM »

You sure about that?

Raider179 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2005, 09:55:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Drunky
This is stupid.

When someone spawncamps then I up a Stuka with 4,000kgs. Only idiots keep upping from a spawncamped vh. Just like the idiots that up from a vulched base and b1tch about it.

exactly what I would have said. But prefer the 26s to kill spawncampers in case he has a friend.

BALSUR · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2005, 10:02:22 PM »

Well, I hate to say it but in Truekills defence they were mostly uping t34's and m16's. Thats a no brainer lost right there. I don't know if I would call it skill or not but, he was very lucky. When you were bugging out and that panzer spawned 200 out you should have been dead. Then when the tiger was 1k behind you you should have been dead. It doesn't matter what you spawn in. If the site is camped by a tiger and you do 1 or 2 at a time you will loose. If those guys would have gotten smart and spawned all together with panzers the streak probly would have ended real soon. Funny thing was when they did get away from the spawn point they ran where you could shoot them,lol.

As for the article, nice piece of allied propaganda. Hardly any of it could be varified by other witnesses. Except for the lone tank crew who said they killed a tiger tank today. As, for the 57mm AT gun crew took them 6 shots. Its been found that the allies greatly fabricated stories to defeat the tigerphobia that was paralysing the troops. It's been found that air power almost had no impact on german heavy armor. If anyone can find any gun camera footage of a P51,P47, Typie or Tempest killing a Tiger tank I sure would like to see it. Most of the film I find shows them straffing supply convoys and the armor they straff you dont see the vehicle destroyed.

iKo · « **Reply #23 on:** March 22, 2005, 12:54:49 AM »

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Originally posted by SunTracker
Tiger could lock one track and perform a 360 by moving around its axis. Sherman tanks could not do this.

Well I quess the info on the History channel was wrong than lol, They had a whole thing on the Sherman V.S. the Tiger and thats not what happened at all. The Tiger was slow in everything

1Klink · « **Reply #24 on:** March 22, 2005, 08:51:38 AM »

Don,t believe everything you see on TV.

My new spawn camp breaking technique works very well.

I keep upping letting them think i don,t have a clue,whilst my squaddie is enroute for thier location with Lancs.Usually after that they get the point,then we move on too the next spawn camp to be broken up.Yea i getted killed alot ,but who really cares about the score?

Lye-El · « **Reply #25 on:** March 22, 2005, 09:05:23 AM »

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Originally posted by SunTracker
Found the website: M-8 destroying Tiger

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arena/5096/upgtiger.htm

The ability to destroy a Tiger I from other than the front is described in a wartime report from the 7th Armored Division while in Belgium in December of 1944:

While northern and eastern flanks had been heavily engaged, the northeastern section had been rather quiet. The only excitement there had been was when an M8 armored car from "E" Troop destroyed a Tiger tank. The armored car had been in a concealed position at right angles to run along a trail in front of the MLR. As the tank passed the armored car, the M8 slipped out of position and started up the trail behind the Tiger, accelerating in an attempt to close. At the same moment the German tank commander saw the M8, and started traversing his gun to bear on the armored car. It was a race between the Americans who were attempting to close so that their puny 37-mm would be effective in the Tiger’s "Achilles heel" (its thin rear armor), and the Germans who were desperately striving to bring their "88" to bear … Suddenly, the M8 had closed to 25 yards, and quickly pumped in 3 rounds… the lumbering Tiger stopped, shuddered; there was a muffled explosion, followed by flames which bellowed out of the turret and engine ports, after which the armored car returned to its position.

At the bottom of the page was also this which I thought was cute;

Disclaimer: The Zerstorer does not endorse the use of individual M3/M5/M8s to assault Tiger or King Tiger tanks in Panzer General II. Miracles happen only in real life!

Masherbrum · « **Reply #26 on:** March 22, 2005, 09:50:13 AM »

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Originally posted by SunTracker
Tiger could lock one track and perform a 360 by moving around its axis. Sherman tanks could not do this.

Uh, sparky, Shermans could, and did.

Karaya

Masherbrum · « **Reply #27 on:** March 22, 2005, 09:51:53 AM »

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Originally posted by TrueKill
And yes it takes skill and a good GVer to spawn camp a heavy spawn.I u want ill post the film so you can see how fast they where uping.

No skill involved at all.

Karaya

Pongo · « **Reply #28 on:** March 22, 2005, 10:18:43 AM »

I love it when people use the spawn rush strategy and then whine that it takes no skill to defeat it.

Urchin · « **Reply #29 on:** March 22, 2005, 11:32:20 AM »

The T-34 we have, shooting the ammo we have, *might* be able to defeat the rear and side armor of the Tiger at a range of about a foot.

During the summer of '43, the Br-350P round was introduced. It was basically a tungsten core round, and could defeat the frontal armor of a Tiger from point blank range, and the rear and side from about 500 meters. A typical T-34/76 in 1943 would have been issued 6 of these rounds, according to a book that I have.