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Pongo · « **on:** March 21, 2005, 12:16:17 PM »

Sounds cool. Wonder how well the Panzerblitz rockets will work?

humble · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2005, 12:48:19 PM »

Wow....

Alot of good stuff....

Pongo · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2005, 01:33:55 PM »

90mm penetration. Since no weapons in AH have Angle of Attack restrictions I guess tigers will have to stay under trees when those bad boys show up.

JB73 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 21, 2005, 01:40:19 PM »

umm pongo, angle of the projectile IS modeled, HiTech himself went into great detail at the last con about it.

it is actually their most complex damage system, GV's that is.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 21, 2005, 01:53:36 PM »

New toyz!

Wotan · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2005, 02:05:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
90mm penetration. Since no weapons in AH have Angle of Attack restrictions I guess tigers will have to stay under trees when those bad boys show up.

If they are modeled historically they need to be launched under 350mph or so and at close range, 200 yards.

Rockets do not have angle of impact restrictions. Rockets in AH are extremely deadly at any angle of impact, hell even getting close. In real life rockets were highly inaccurate and just getting close was tricky.

I would expect they would be similar to all other rockets in AH.

88mm mortar warhead on an R4M rocket. They aren't shaped charged like the PB-2 and PB-3.

6 PB-1s under each wing fired in salvos of 2 should tear some gvs up in AH.

Karnak · « **Reply #6 on:** March 21, 2005, 02:18:48 PM »

The PB1 rockets should make the Luftwaffe boys happy. They don't have to grab an Allied fighter for them now.

Octavius · « **Reply #7 on:** March 21, 2005, 02:23:00 PM »

Awesome. Doubt I'll find myself outside the 190F for a few months!

JB73 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 21, 2005, 02:24:47 PM »

with the bomb / rocket rails actually on the planes now, im really curious how they'll effect performance after the ord is gone.

Pongo · « **Reply #9 on:** March 21, 2005, 02:57:45 PM »

Im not so sure that they are introducing the R4M based panzerblitz. It might be the enchanced panzershreck. An up engined 88mm rocket that is apperently called the PanzerBlitz 1.

lw rockets

I wasnt refering to the impact angle of the projectile but the Angle of Attack of the aircraft at launch.

Edbert1 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2005, 02:57:48 PM »

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Originally posted by JB73
with the bomb / rocket rails actually on the planes now, im really curious how they'll effect performance after the ord is gone.

I'd expect some more than others, for example the center rack on an FW should be pretty small compared to the bigger pylons on a P47. Although the P38 also used those big pylons they were much closer to the centerline therefore should not have as drastic of an effect.

JB73 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2005, 03:07:39 PM »

ahh rgr pongo, thought you were talking penetration

Sp4de · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2005, 03:40:21 PM »

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Originally posted by JB73
ahh rgr pongo, thought you were talking PENETRATION

LePaul · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2005, 04:32:42 PM »

Awesome news to hear the terrain and trees are getting a major makeover.

Fix the disappearing vox, the generous ditching model and whoop-dang this thing is getting nicer by the day!

Wotan · « **Reply #14 on:** March 21, 2005, 05:09:46 PM »

I am not sure how accurate that link is. I will have to dig my books but here's a quote from a modeling site:

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One of those was the Panzerblitz 1 rocket. Developed by Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabrik, the Panzerblitz (Pb1) was a more successful missile than the Panzerschreck 1 that preceded it. The rocket consisted of an 80mm mortar grenade (Gerat M8 -Device M8) mated with the R4M air-to-air missile. In 1 Sept 1944, four Pb1 launch rails were installed under the wing of Fw-190F-8 Werke Number 733705 for trails. Tests showed the rockets could be launched from about twice the distance from the target (about 200 yards) as the Panzerschreck but with a maximum target approach speed of 305 mph, the aircraft was vulnerable to ground fire.

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The number of rockets fitted beneath each wing rose to six and finally standardized on eight very late in the war. Not surprisingly, the smaller warhead penetrated only 90mm of steel. At first, the rockets were fired in two salvos, but later launched in pairs. On 1 January, 1945, the pilot of an Fw-190F-8, equipped with the Pb 1, crash landed near Asche, Holland, giving the Allies their first glimpse of the new weapon system.

Production of the Fw-190F-8/Pb 1 received high priority and, by February 1945, 115 aircraft were so equipped. Meanwhile, the infamous SS-controlled factory near Brno, Czechoslovakia, were producing missiles at the rate of 16,000 a month. By February, 1945, some 43,850 missiles had been manufactured.

The type was replaced by Panzerblitz 2, a modified R4M with a Panzerschreck warhead, capable of penetrating 180mm of armor, but that is another story.