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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2005, 09:15:24 PM »
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 I have all my books in excell, if you want me to send you the sheet, it has auther and price, along with a short review.

Just let me know

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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2005, 09:16:10 PM »
3 places - abe.com, alibris, and ebay.

The trick is to use general keywords. Most people selling this stuff don't know what they have. But they are also greedy and ask a lot. So it takes patience, unless you have an unlimited budget.

All my luck so far has been with the American companies. I'd like to start collecting foreign manuals, but I'd need a translator.

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 Were do you get these engine manuals?

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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2005, 09:18:24 PM »
DO you just search for say


R2800 manual on ebay?

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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2005, 09:18:50 PM »
To really be good at this requires time and experience with the official archives.

Crump I think you are already well down that road. For a lot of us, we can't get the librarians to call us back or a week off of work to figure out the indices.

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God, I don't even want to think about it.

This month alone I have spent over 700 US dollars.  Most of it in acquiring original documentation on the original paper.  

Books? I spent about 200 on books this month which is what I have been averaging with a spike like this month every 2-3 months.

That does not include gas, food, hotels, etc.. when traveling to archives/museums for research either.

Expensive to research a book.  When you see guys post documentation, like Henning, Guppy, F4UDOA, and others, be sure to thank them.  They are niether free nor cheap.




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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2005, 09:22:51 PM »
Start with the name of the manufacturer. Then limit to engine model, but possibly not. If you have an exact title from a reference, try it but don't be surprised if you draw blanks.

It took me several months to find an affordable manual on the R2800 model with a 2 stage supercharger. Try for example "Operators Handbook Double Wasp A & B Series Engine," Pratt & Whtiney Aircraft.

If you have a lot of cash to spend, it goes much faster, but I can't do that.

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DO you just search for say


R2800 manual on ebay?

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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2005, 09:28:37 PM »
Can't get to Hawaii? Consider Camden, NJ home of the New Jersey. They are opening up more and more of the ship as they get more funds.

Most impressive place I saw were the combat centers - how they directed the big guns. Literally many feet of armor which everyone knew wasn't enough, so they built duplicates...

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Star
 How big is the tour of the mighty Mo?

 DO you get inside a 16 Inch turret? What about a 5 inch mount?

DO they take you to the engine rooms etc?

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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2005, 09:34:51 PM »
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Gentlemen, save yourself a lot of money. Go to Alibris.com and buy used. I bought one of the original 1000 copies of Pete Bowers' Fortress in The Sky for $70 thru Alibris. Six months later, I saw one go for $370 on Ebay. Alibris is a great place to find out of print material.

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That or http://www.abebooks.com

I've found lots of out of print stuff there as well.

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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2005, 09:41:16 PM »
Joe
 Jersey or Hawaii are just about out of reach, both would be "vacations"

The GF will do Hawaii, and I can drag her to the Mo, lol. Wont be this year.


Jersey is not going to happen, I mention east coast and she gives me a dirty look. (she lived over there and didnt like it)

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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2005, 09:47:44 PM »
Thanks for the info guys.

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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2005, 09:51:48 PM »
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To really be good at this requires time and experience with the official archives.


Yes it does.  Some of the archives I am on first name basis with most of the staff.  

Be glad to help with any specific questions on research.

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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2005, 10:47:05 PM »
I'm mostly look for the technical side as well as pictures / and good qaulity drawings. I was eyebaling "German Aircraft Interiors", but ended up picking up  "Focke-Wulf 190A - Illustrated History of the Luftwaffes Legendary Fighter Aircraft" by Hermann, Leverenz, & Weber. So far a good read and lot of details.

Anything that has details and pictures of aircraft - I'm looking for it...lol

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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2005, 11:01:28 PM »
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I'm mostly look for the technical side as well as pictures / and good qaulity drawings. I was eyebaling "German Aircraft Interiors", but ended up picking up  "Focke-Wulf 190A - Illustrated History of the Luftwaffes Legendary Fighter Aircraft" by Hermann, Leverenz, & Weber. So far a good read and lot of details.

Anything that has details and pictures of aircraft - I'm looking for it...lol


I end up on the opposite side of the spectrum.  The aircraft becomes the guide to the guys who flew it.

100 Spit XIIs built, two squadrons flying it.  Perfect little framework for a  project that kept me going tracking pilots, ground crew and info from 1980 on, with about a 6 year window of everyday something new stuff.  England twice, RAF Museum, Duxford, Colitshall, Tangmere, IWM and a reunion of 41 Squadron

The 90s was bomber crews, 454th out of Italy, 447th out of England.  

AW shows up and I get 38 happy, now the shelves are stocked with all the 38 group histories and anything I could find on em.

It's a disease I tell ya! :)

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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2005, 01:08:22 AM »
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Awsome!

I wonder if they bay area will eventualy get the Iowa? You can see her from the freeway up in the north bay.


I am sure the navy will keep trying to strike her from the books.

I love these ships.

Did you take any pics?

Can you volenteer time aboard to help restore her?

Thanks for the info!


Sort of.  The wife took the pics, so she didnt direct the camera to the places I wanted her to always, but there are a few good ones.  Problem is, I opened a photo album on Yahoo but all I can get to show here are the links.  I'm uploading them now to the album, and I'll try again.  I may just end up posting a link to the album and say browse away lol.

Also (to stay on topic) I have used Abe.com several times.  Great used book service.

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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2005, 05:44:27 AM »
Here's a hit from ABE that came today, and pretty cheap too:

Operation and Service Manual Wright Cyclone 9 Paterson, NJ.: Wright Aeronautical Corporation, 1943 Near Fine. (Keywords: AVIATION, CURTISS-WRIGHT CORP.)

That was generated by a want with a keyword "Cyclone" and Publisher "Wright"

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 Were do you get these engine manuals?

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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2005, 10:41:27 AM »
Started new thread late last night with the link for pics if anyone is interested.  I didnt want to keep dragging this thread off topic.