Author Topic: Advocate spanking, get expelled (Read 425 times)

Sandman · « **on:** March 21, 2005, 08:04:33 PM »

http://www.thefire.org/index.php/article/5303.html

While I disagree with McConnell's opinion, I believe the school is a bit out of line.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2005, 08:24:15 PM »

Yeah thats pretty sad.

Maverick · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2005, 11:05:14 PM »

I would imagine that the schools accreditation is going to suffer imensely from this. The financial settlement is also going to hurt.

john9001 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 22, 2005, 12:53:27 AM »

Cathy Leogrande=tenure, ivory tower

Shuckins · « **Reply #4 on:** March 22, 2005, 08:48:43 AM »

Bet school discipline goes down the toilet and...watch for an escalation in child violence.

Seagoon · « **Reply #5 on:** March 22, 2005, 11:25:03 AM »

Hi Sandman,

Don't tell anyone I did this...

Several months ago as I was leaving the video store, the lady in front of me had a young boy (probably about 3) in the midst of a level three hissy fit because mommy had refused to buy him the handfulls of candy he had grabbed from the counter (curse you Blockbuster for putting that up front - as if the supermarket checkout wasn't enough of a gauntlet). She then began trying to chivvy him out of the store, whereupon he fell on the floor in the exit kicking and screaming at the top of his lungs "I WANT THE CAAAAAAAAANDY!!!". Meanwhile young mommy is standing over him saying, "Chandler, is that any way to act? Chandler calm down, we need to go now. Please stop Chandler... etc." As though it were a conversation at a customer service counter. Meanwhile people were backing up behind her and Les Enfant Terrible because no one could get out past "Chandler." I don't know what I was thinking but I moved past her, picked Chandler up and knelt down in front of him and said in Daddy tone, "CHANDLER, LOOK AT ME, IF YOU DON'T STOP THIS TANTRUM RIGHT NOW YOUR MOMMY IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A BIG SPANKING WHEN YOU GET HOME"

I don't know who was more shocked, the kid, or the mommy, but his eyes got huge at the word "spanking", he stopped immediately, and mommy was able to take him by the hand out to the car. The sad thing is that a grandma actually said to me, "Thank you for doing that, I'd be afraid of getting sued if I put my hands on somebody elses child." Ah well, I guess that didn't occur to me until after I done it, we've become so hyper-sensitive at this point that something as simple as parental discipline is becoming well nigh impossible, even illegal in some countries. The sad thing is that the chastening of a child is a sign of parental love - it's absence a sign of neglect.

- SEAGOON

eskimo2 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 22, 2005, 07:17:14 PM »

My first thoughts on this also were that the university was way out of line; how dare they kick someone out of school for expressing their own opinion. The more I think about it however, the more I understand their reasoning. Suppose that the student had advocated pedophilia in schools; would the university still be out of line? No; they should be responsible for weeding out dangerous people and preventing them from working with children. I can’t think of any other university program where it might be appropriate to remove students based solely on their expressed thoughts. Advocating pedophilia is an extreme example, but I think that it illustrates that it can be acceptable to remove education majors based on dangerous views or expressed intentions. The real question here is: is spanking extreme enough? In nearly all schools it is illegal and will result in a teacher being immediately fired; schools and districts would also be at risk for being sued. It’s a big deal and is 100% unacceptable.

I still think the university over-reacted, but I get where they are coming from.

eskimo