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Offline Skydancer

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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2005, 08:02:59 AM »
Are they mad? I'd give her the job;) :lol

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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2005, 08:48:11 AM »
sue sue sue

sorry, I wouldn't know she was "black" unless ya told me

maybe she just ain't qualified for whatever

maybe she needs to look outside the university for employment
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2005, 10:06:07 AM »
Heck yea! she coulda just 'passed'.
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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2005, 10:09:37 AM »
bustr... question, the 100% Souix woman was your "great grandmother"?

making grandma 50% making mom 25% making you 12.5% if i am following the tree properly.


i am exactly the same, grandmother mother was 100% cherokee.

i am 1/8 cherokee

under federal law, if you are registered with your tribe you may recieve full native american benefits if you are 1/8 (12.5%) or more. that's the cutoff

since you can follow your tree back that far maybe you should look up and register with the tribe.

my grandmother was harrassed as a child about it, and claims it is not true to this day, and it has been hard for us to trace it back, but my 2nd cousin or something found out enough for us to know the truth.... unfortunatly we need to find a birth / death record for the great grandmother and have been unable to find one (noone has physically gone to oaklahoma to research this, which is what we need to do to get the proof the gov. needs)
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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2005, 10:10:52 AM »
So you were serious bustr?

Well I'll be damned...

This place is nuts.

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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2005, 10:16:00 AM »
"Oooops! We thought she was Mexican."

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« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2005, 01:00:46 PM »
Update:

Library Assistant Loses Suit Vs. Harvard

Mon Apr 4, 7:58 PM ET   U.S. National - AP
 
By MICHAEL KUNZELMAN, Associated Press Writer

BOSTON - Harvard University did not discriminate against a library assistant who claimed she was repeatedly turned down for promotions because school officials saw her as "a pretty girl" whose attire was too "sexy," a federal jury found Monday.

Desiree Goodwin, who is black, also claimed that Harvard passed her over because of her race and gender. She had been seeking damages for emotional distress and lost wages.

"One of my friends said to me, no matter how it turns out, standing up for yourself is a victory in itself," Goodwin said after the verdict.

Harvard spokesman Joe Wrinn said the university was pleased with the ruling.

"Employment at Harvard is based on the specific work skills and work history applicants bring to specific jobs," he said. "We have always believed that to be the case and today the jury has agreed."

Goodwin, who has worked as a library assistant at Harvard since 1994, claimed in the lawsuit that she had been rejected for seven promotions at the library since 1999.

She said she was shocked when, in late 2001, her supervisor told her she would never be promoted at Harvard. In court documents, Goodwin said her supervisor told her she was "a joke" at the university's main library, where she "was seen merely as a pretty girl who wore sexy outfits, low cut blouses, and tight pants."

But Harvard attorney Richard Riley said Goodwin's supervisors encouraged her, helped her with her resume and recommended her for other positions. For each job she applied for, Harvard received applications from dozens of other qualified applicants from across the country, he said.

Goodwin's claims were dismissed by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination.

Goodwin, 40, testified earlier in the trial that she overcame a childhood marked by poverty and a chaotic family life to attend Cornell University, Boston College and Simmons College, earning a bachelor's degree and two master's degrees, including one in library science.

She said she has no immediate plans to leave Harvard, although she is looking for library jobs elsewhere.

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« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2005, 01:21:29 PM »
you are only saying that because i am beige. - recent retort.
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« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2005, 01:40:28 PM »
Did nobody even notice that her case had already been dismissed by the EEOC?  And the state anti-discrimination board as well.  I cant believe after both of those dismissed her case as "without merit", AND she filed a frivolous lawsuit that no one is screaming to take the witch's head off.  People like this minimize the impact when someone really does have a case.  She should be punished for wasting taxpayer money and to protect people who truly do need the help of the system to get justice.

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« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2005, 01:55:14 PM »
How do you know when "someone really does have a case"?

Does the executive branch have to give its blessing?

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« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2005, 02:02:30 PM »
If she couldn't win this case in Cambridge MA............

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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2005, 02:08:00 PM »
But does that make it a frivolous lawsuit?
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« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2005, 02:10:44 PM »
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Originally posted by Shamus
How do you know when "someone really does have a case"?

Does the executive branch have to give its blessing?

shamus

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Erm... no, but if the EEOC refuses to take a case, given some of the silly things they have sued employers for over the years, AND the state level anti-discrimination people refused her, that should be a warning sign right there.  I mean, thats what those people DO.  Her case was judged "without merit" before she ever filed a lawsuit.  I'm just saying, it makes it harder for people who truly have been discriminated against or given shabby treatment to be taken seriously.

And ty.  :)  I've got the broken bones to go with it too lol.

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« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2005, 02:47:33 PM »
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Erm... no, but if the EEOC refuses to take a case, given some of the silly things they have sued employers for over the years, AND the state level anti-discrimination people refused her, that should be a warning sign right there.  I mean, thats what those people DO.  Her case was judged "without merit" before she ever filed a lawsuit.  I'm just saying, it makes it harder for people who truly have been discriminated against or given shabby treatment to be taken seriously.
 


Granted it can percieved that way, but I do have a problem relying on the executive branch too much as a litmus, they are far more political than the courts.

Anticdotal evidence is not worth much to a person not involved, but I had an expirence on one occasion where as an employer I was told by department of labor employee's that if I would kick in a couple of grand per on a few complaints, they would "go away".

I filed a lawsuit against the department of labor and the investigation was dropped.

Now had I lost that lawsuit, I sure would not have felt that it had been frivolous.

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