Author Topic: Joystick trouble (Read 842 times)

Rattkiller · « **on:** March 23, 2005, 06:11:27 PM »

Hello fellow flight junky's can someone please help me out here

I'll start by telling what kind of system I have. I'm running the following:

1. ASUS A8V Deluxe motherboard with an AMD 939 pin 3500+ 64bit CPU
2. ATI 9800 pro graphic card 128 meg
3. 2 gig ram
4. OS is Windows 2000 pro with service pack 4
5. Using the Asus onboard Gameport and Sound card
6. Using CH Products F-16 Combatstick, Pro Throttle, and CH Pedals these controls are all running to a gameport not a USB

Here's the problem. When I run AH I only get half of the control from my joystick and rudder pedals. The pitch on the stick only works to the negitive (down) and the pedals will only yaw to the left. I have run the setup in windows and from the calibration charts everything seems to function correctly, but not in AH. All drivers are current that I know of, downloaded those just a few days ago. Nothing is working and I don't have that much hair left to pull out. CHProducts recommends that the hook up for their controls is:
Gameport
I don't have any other sim that I can check with and I've done baffeled the guru's at HTC.

Have not been able to fly online since before Nov. 4, 2004 (We had a house fire and just got everything put back together)

Can someone lend a hand?

respectfully

Rattkiller Iron Eagles Squad

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 23, 2005, 07:31:31 PM »

I am assuming you have also calibrated the stick ingame, as well as checking the calibration in Windows?

Have you checked to make sure that you have the x and y axes mapped to the stick?

I also assume you downloaded the analog drivers from CH?

Download CH's driver cleaner, uninstall your drivers and run the cleaner. Reboot. Reinstall the drivers. Reboot. Calibrate. Try to setup ingame, and check to make sure each device is mapped to the axis or axes it is supposed to control.

Rattkiller · « **Reply #2 on:** March 23, 2005, 09:39:24 PM »

That didn't work arrrrrrrrrggggggggg

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 23, 2005, 11:19:55 PM »

Which part doesnt work? How far can you get in setting up your stick in AH? When you look at what is set for each axis, did you click on the x axis and check to see what controller is mapped, and then click on y to see what controller is mapped? Does it say "CH F-16 Fighterstick"?

Rattkiller · « **Reply #4 on:** March 23, 2005, 11:37:10 PM »

After I Calibrate the stick in AH the only control I have is left yaw by the peddles and negitive pitch from the joy stick the throttle seems to function ok.
X Axis moves from 65674 to 0
Y axis moves from 65535 to 0
Z Axis moves from 65535 to 0
Z Rotation moves from 65535 to 0

There also is some intermediate flutter in all the controls jerky movement not very smooth

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2005, 12:12:25 AM »

Sorry, its been so long since I had to set mine up, I had to fire the game up to make sure what I'm saying is right.

Click on setup -> controls -> joystick -> select joystick.

On the left side is a window called "AH control". It has roll, pitch, throttle, rudder, etc. The middle window is joysticks. More correctly, its "controllers". Your mouse should be listed here. Your joystick. Your pedals probably arent, but the throttle should be (I think). I havent used a Pro Throttle, so I'm not sure. But if we can get everything else working, that can be worked out with someone who DOES know. click on Roll. in the middle window, select your joystick, and on the right select X axis. Click the "set input" button. Now do the same for pitch, except select the Y axis on the right. For rudders, select your stick again and select the Z axis. You have to hit the "Set Input" button each time you do a new axis. Throttle on mine is the Z rotation. It should be on yours also, but again I'm not sure with the Pro Throttle. Hat switch is obvious enough.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2005, 12:14:49 AM »

Flutter is to be expected with an analog controller. Mine are 8 years old after all, and while there's a little flutter they work fine in the game. Just use the damping controls until the stick is stable ingame.

Rattkiller · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2005, 10:39:55 AM »

Well just want to say thanks for your help but there is still no joy in mudville tonight. Nothing seems to correct this problem. Again thanks for taking the time to assist me with this.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2005, 11:04:31 AM »

Dont know, this might have something to do with it. More knowledgable people than me

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146344

WMLute · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2005, 03:23:59 PM »

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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Dont know, this might have something to do with it. More knowledgable people than me

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146344

or more specifically from that thread...

http://www.ch-hangar.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=324

with much thanks to ack-ack

Rattkiller · « **Reply #10 on:** March 26, 2005, 09:18:09 AM »

Everything that I have hooked to the computer for controllers is analog through a gameport none are USB my OS is Windows 2000 pro with service pack 4. The game port is an onboard gameport on the Motherboard which is an ASUS A8V Deluxe the CPU is a AMD Atholon 64bit 3500+ processor and the system has 2 gig of ram.
When I set the system up I enabled the gameport on the motherboard at 200/330 for addressing. The Game controllers are (F-16 Combatstick, CH Pro Throttle, and CH Peddles all are gameport not USB). I have Setup the gameport driver through windows and have setup and calibrated all the controlers in windows using CH Products driver for their respective device. They are all seen and they work in the windows side I will still have to program the throttle at some point.
The trouble is when I go into AH and try to fly AH only see's one side of pitch and that is negitive (down). Left and right roll seem to work, but the peddles will only allow left yaw.
The motherboard that I had previous to this one was a Abit 64bit board and a AMD 3200 processor and 1 gig ram OS was the same as now the only difference was I used a SB soundcard w/gameport the controllers all worked just fine and I was able to be shotdown with gusto in AH. I have called the BOY's at HTC and spent 45min on the phone with them (THEY IS BAFFLED) I need a SUPERGEEK to help figure this one out. I don't really want to have to step up to new controllers if I dont have to

Schaden · « **Reply #11 on:** March 26, 2005, 11:19:18 AM »

Do you think it would help if you got someone else's set up file? I also have CH setup and you're welcome to mine.

email me at schadenah@hotmail.com

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 27, 2005, 02:25:48 AM »

You went through HTC's tech support already, did you go through CH's tech support? CH has very good tech support for their products. If you have already tried them, and AckAck's link doesnt help you, I'm afraid I dont know but one thing to suggest.

Get rid of the Throttle.

It might have a problem. I know its probably not a solution you want to think about, but you can get used to flying without it, and if it solves your problem so you can fly again, then it'd be worth it to me. At least until someone offers you a better alternative anyway.

Clifra Jones · « **Reply #13 on:** March 28, 2005, 03:53:07 PM »

rattkiller, are you running Control Manager? If not try it. Create a CM profile combining all devices into one vertual device. 32 buttons, 6 axis. Test it in CM to make sure all the axis are working properly. X & Y and rudders (Z?) shoult be set to centered. If they are not you will have these types of issues.

(not to hijack the thread, but)

For the CH jockies out there if you are interested I have written some cool scripts for these devices.

1. Sticky hat: Sticks a hat switch so you can take you finger off it. i.e. Select left view and be able to take you thumb off the hat switch and the view stays looking left. You click another button to snap the view back front.

2. Turn that all but useless microstick on the CH pro Throttle into your view controller. Do a 360 view with a swoosh of your left thumb.

If anyone is interested I will post them in a seperate thread.

Murdr · « **Reply #14 on:** March 28, 2005, 04:34:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Clifra Jones

2. Turn that all but useless microstick on the CH pro Throttle into your view controller. Do a 360 view with a swoosh of your left thumb.

Did that without a script by assigning microstick axises as u and v. Assigned them to pan functions in AH stick mapping.