Author Topic: Rhine in the CT (Read 1099 times)

Airscrew · « **Reply #15 on:** March 25, 2005, 04:54:25 PM »

The reason for the decline in numbers in the CT is my fault..
I havent had time to play since March of last year and a brief time during the Con when we were in Dallas.

without me around to be shot down everybody got bored and left.
Well that'll change this weekend, I called Skuzzy and had my account reactivate so look out for AirScrew to get kicked around somemore.

Grits · « **Reply #16 on:** March 25, 2005, 05:34:59 PM »

Thrila, I am honestly curious as to what you think should be done. In another thread in the CT forum someone requested the 51B and the P47D-11. I am not sure why these planes are wanted when there are plenty of choices already, all better than the planes being asked for.

The CT staff, as I understand it, try to create interesting matchups, but not neccessarily every plane in use at that time period. We have had many USAAF only vs LW, or RAF only vs LW, but not the whole inventory.

This set, while not including every type in service in '45, allows both sides to fly perk planes that few ever fly in the MA, all the allied perk planes are perk-free in this setup, and the 163/262 are very minimally perked. Folks can fly this week and log more hours in a Temp than most will ever have in the MA, same with the Spit 14 and 163/262.

So again, I am not trying to berate you, I just dont understand the outrage that certain older planes like the Spit 9 or P51-B are not included, planes which will have minimal, if any, use this week.

killnu · « **Reply #17 on:** March 25, 2005, 05:51:16 PM »

maybe its not the plane set, but the berating?

Oldman731 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 25, 2005, 05:58:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Grits
Thrila, I am honestly curious as to what you think should be done.

Me, too.

- oldman

Grits · « **Reply #19 on:** March 25, 2005, 05:58:45 PM »

Thrila said the spit 9 was used to the end of the war, and there were instances (like now) where it was left out of CT setups. I asked why worry about the Spit 9 when the allies have the Spit 14 unperked. He then said said he wouldnt give the CT another try.

I honestly do not know what he is upset about, nobody berated him that I saw.

thrila · « **Reply #20 on:** March 25, 2005, 05:59:52 PM »

I'm still curious where you got the idea i'm outraged at the lack of a spit 9. Where exactly did you find it in this

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Why no spit IX?

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Westy that's because there are instances when the spitfire saw service but not included. Truekill the spit IX saw service in europe until the end of the war, it was the RAF's mainstay fighter from 43 onwards (well the spit LF IX)

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The first was a simple question, the second was justifying why the spit 9 should be included.

Apart from truekills initial reply, all i got was jabs from you "CT guys" rather than a remotely constructive reply. It isn't the lack of the spit 9 in the CT, it's the mentality of the people who frequent there. Enjoy your sandbox guys.

thrila · « **Reply #21 on:** March 25, 2005, 06:06:27 PM »

I think the CT should stay as it is, i think it's fine for you guys.

Killnu has it right. I asked a really simple question and couldn't get an answer.

Grits · « **Reply #22 on:** March 25, 2005, 06:15:08 PM »

How was anything I said a jab?

You asked:

"Why no spit IX?"

TK responded:

"The spit 9 entered service 7-42 and the spit 14 1-44. Dont know if the brits still used the 9, but it has'nt been in earlyer Rhine setups so I left it out."

Seems like a straightforward answer to me.

Again, I dont see what the issue is with that since the Spit 14 is unperked.

bj229r · « **Reply #23 on:** March 25, 2005, 06:42:41 PM »

I flew CT an hour or so last night, had a fairly good time (esp considering rooks gettin ganged off yet another map in MA)-- LW side has somewhat of a plane advantage, (109F, G6, 190A5 ,F4F, H1 vs LA5, YakT, H2c)---but the thing I see as the real and only problem from which everything else arises, is the advent of squads in CT. MOST of the 15-20 guys on were in squads, and ALL of the LW side was. With 20 guys on, 5-6 showing up at your base at 15k, flying in concert, utterly dominates, and ensures no 1 on 1 fights--something which one would tend to think would happen in small arena. That prolly why there are often more guys in DA---they want fights, not to get beat up by 4-5 109's at once. As I have said before, that sorta thing makes CT look like miniature version of MA, and not somewhere to go fer something different.

Karnak · « **Reply #24 on:** March 25, 2005, 06:57:09 PM »

The 1942 Spitfire F.Mk IX is not appropriate for this setup. I completely agree with it's omission. The Spitfire F.Mk XIV is much closer in performance to both the Spitfire LF.Mk IX, Spitfire Mk XIV (obviously) and Spitfire LF.Mk XVI than is the Merlin 61 Spitfire F.Mk IX that we have in AH.

Just because it says "Spitfire MK IX" does not make it correct. No more than a 1942 Bf109G would be appropriate to use as a 1944 Bf109G.

Grits made the right call.

killnu · « **Reply #25 on:** March 25, 2005, 07:14:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Westy
"Why no spit IX?"

lol. I saw the topics title and I knew, without even looking at the arena setup, that someone would ask where the Spit was.

Like asking a "when" question and someone saying "two weeks." Post a CT setup and someone will ask "WH3RE"S THE SP1TfiR3?!"

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why would you need the Spit 9? Sheesh, cant make anybody happy.

maybe he got it from these?

maybe not intended that way but i can see his point.

Slash27 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 25, 2005, 08:22:53 PM »

I think Grits' reply came off to thrilla wrong. Knowing Grits I know thats not how he intended but if you dont know him, I could see it coming across like a wise ass. Grits is a good dude thrilla, I think you guys just got your wires crossed.

Grits · « **Reply #27 on:** March 25, 2005, 09:05:33 PM »

I should have said, "you cant make everyone happy", that was a poor choice of words on my part, and I am sorry for that, but what I said was nevertheless a true statement. Its like having the F4U-4 unperked in a setup and complaining because the F4U-1 was left out. Its petty nit-picking that adds nothing of value.

I wont speak for Westy, but I think we were hitting the same point. I said that because I feel sorry for the CT admins. No matter how hard they try, every week players are going to whine about something. Every week somebody is mad because their pet plane was left out, or the other side has a plane that is not going to let their pet plane have the spotlight, or a plane is in a month before it was really operational, it never ends.

bj229r · « **Reply #28 on:** March 25, 2005, 09:25:08 PM »

I see more spit V's in MA than Spit 9's any more..dont fly spits much, but apparently the 9 was neutered a bit fer ah2?

Slash27 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 25, 2005, 09:33:46 PM »

Im not really a Spit driver but the 9 seems the same to me. The 5 seems like it did a cycle of D-Bol before AH2.