Author Topic: uh oh... (Read 1377 times)

JB73 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 30, 2005, 03:20:21 PM »

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Originally posted by JB88
actually, i live a little closer to here.

if you click on the bud and alleys link, you will see where i was posting from yesterday.

thanks for playing.

(hitting hidden trapdoor button)

is that near that club "the birdcage" in south fla?

JB88 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 30, 2005, 03:25:12 PM »

no. actually, the developed world is only a problem when it comes to energy consumption. our birth rates remain relatively low as happens when societies begin to advance...the far east is rapidly modernizing and industrialising which is going to further strain the resource pool that we have to work with.

the population of the workd is on a proven tragegtory to congestion as well.

look, this isnt doom and gloom at all. this is a matter of practicality and a matter of foresight. that the same folks who are swearing that social security is going to fail and screaming that we need to privatize only serves to befuddle those who see that type of conservatism translatable to actual physical resources.

i find it very odd how folks have a hard time grasping that and/or resort to circular arguements rather than discussing potential solutions and/or facts of the matter.

but hey...it may just be all about you...which is fine...thats your perogative. but in my mind its pretty weak.

as you say...yawn.

JB88 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 30, 2005, 03:25:55 PM »

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Originally posted by JB73
is that near that club "the birdcage" in south fla?

lol

why, you need a reservation boss?

ygsmilo · « **Reply #18 on:** March 30, 2005, 03:29:07 PM »

Well I guess the good ol USA will have to wipe out everybody else out so we keep our fair share.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #19 on:** March 30, 2005, 03:45:21 PM »

Of course we are going to kill ourselves off. Duh. The very nature of the species is one of self-destruction. We refuse to accept responsibility for our actions, on a global basis.
One way or another, mankind will perish from Earth.

Then all the doom sayers can wag thier fingers in the air and proclaim they were right! Of course, they will be dead, but let's not nitpick.
Meanwhile, I am doing my part to escalate the destruction of it all by living one heck of a life.

You see, it's not that I do not care. I am just being realistic about it. Nothing I can do will make a difference in the world, and if you think any of you matter, then keep on smoking what you have been smoking. There is a happy place for you too.

JB73 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 30, 2005, 03:47:53 PM »

skuzzy, i have never heard it put quite that way.

very well spoken to this crowd LOL !

Toad · « **Reply #21 on:** March 30, 2005, 03:49:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
and if you think any of you matter, then keep on smoking what you have been smoking. There is a happy place for you too.

Skuzzy, you forgot to advise them to exhale through a good filter that will trap all the contaminants and not pollute the air any further.

Oh... and when you change those filters, be sure the toxins aren't released into the environment in some way.

JB88 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 30, 2005, 04:00:28 PM »

boy howdy!!!

not gonna pee on that fire, but i think you know where i stand on that one skuzzy.

now where in the hell did i put that prozac...

Skuzzy · « **Reply #23 on:** March 30, 2005, 04:06:43 PM »

No I really don't 88. When I see your art, for example, I see a mass of misused/abused resources. This leads me to believe you do not care as much as the next guy does.

Like I said, it is our nature. We are programmed for self-destruction. No one is going to stop it. It is simply a matter of time.

JB73 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 30, 2005, 04:11:34 PM »

skuzzy, do you subscribe to that theroy, i forget the name, but where things do not evolve into order, but instead move from order to disorder?

i read about it once and is interesting, and seems along the lines you are speaking.

JB88 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 30, 2005, 04:13:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
No I really don't 88. When I see your art, for example, I see a mass of misused/abused resources. This leads me to believe you do not care as much as the next guy does.

not sure what you mean there. i suppose that you could argue that its bad art and thus it would be misused resource... lol

perhaps you might explain that i might understand.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #26 on:** March 30, 2005, 04:16:06 PM »

Any theories I subscribe to are of my own making 73. It is the one thing we actually can control, unless we chose to give that up as well.
I am too hard headed to let some other dipstick make up my mind for me.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #27 on:** March 30, 2005, 04:20:20 PM »

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Originally posted by JB88
not sure what you mean there. i suppose that you could argue that its bad art and thus it would be misused resource... lol

perhaps you might explain that i might understand.

Now we start getting into all kinds of rationalizations, which just waste breath.

I believe you have a large amount of fresh water being used for something not related to sustaining life?
Or the electricity being used for something other than providing a way to see in the dark?

If you want to say you are all for conservation and we must do it now, then why are you being wasteful? It just has the appearance of being hypocritical. Of course, you can rationalize that entire perspective away, and it is your perogative to do so.

JB88 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 30, 2005, 04:25:01 PM »

as am i.

but i dont mind listening to them...appearantly most of us rather enjoy it or we wouldnt be here. i am as much of a dipstick as the next guy i suppose.

are you reffering to chaos theory 73? where is holden when you need him?

entropy would probably be a good model for what skuzzy is talking about...and i dont disagree that all things eventually meet thier end...actually, my work has something to do with that...if that was what skuzzy was reffering to...then he was being quite observant...that all things are temporal. but i dont think that such knowledge removes us from the responsibility for action when action is possible. my work tends to deal with the temporal nature of the human but it could be applied elsewhere.

i just happen to think that it is best to be conservative in resource usage to avoid suffering or the suffering of others whenever possible.

it makes rational sense to me that i dont need to be a resource hog to enjoy my life.

(though i may be a post potato)

the water was recycled btw.

a bit thin perhaps...but ok. you are technically correct.

im gonna go pour some battery acid in the waterway now... IM FREEEEEEE!

Skuzzy · « **Reply #29 on:** March 30, 2005, 04:28:31 PM »

By the way, I am not dinging you 88. But from some perspectives you can be seen as a person of glutony and waste.

I live how I chose and accept the consequences of my choice and I do not tell others how to live. That is their choice.