Author Topic: uh oh... (Read 1358 times)

ASTAC · « **Reply #45 on:** March 31, 2005, 02:25:29 PM »

Don't really care...don't think that the last 3rd will be used up in my lifetime..and of all the "scientists" in the world little more than a thousand come to this conclusion...I love my children to death..but after I'm gone..what happens here will no longer be my concern...and I'm sure that they will find a way to deal with it....why worry about saving a planet I won't be using anymore?

JB88 · « **Reply #46 on:** March 31, 2005, 02:26:22 PM »

any swedes here want to chime in on this?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #47 on:** March 31, 2005, 02:28:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Rolex
There are politically motivated and inductive reasoning filters that gunk up the works of science. But, we all know the planet won't be around forever.

Reminds me of the story about a guy dozing off during an astronomer's lecture. The astromer is explaining that if we're still here, our star will kill us all off a billion years from now. The napping guy is startled awake and say, "What? What did you say?"

The astronomer repeats it and the guys says, "Whew... Okay. I thought you said a million years from now."

Which is going to bite us hard first? Well, if you're in your 50's, your parents have been labeled "The Greatest Generation." What will media label the children of "The Greatest Generation?'

I'll say we'll be called "The Greediest Generation."

Those of us in our 50's will see some of the effects of our greed before we die. If you're in your 20's now, you'll most likely be cursing us. And your children will cure us also.

Those of you in your 40's and 50's who live a comfortable, upper-middle class or above life now do realize that your children will not have a better life than you? This will be a great sea change in human development. Those who are living a lower middle-class, month-to-month existance, your children will feel the brunt of the changes in store in the next 20 years.

The changes will economic and dangerously geopolitical; the ecology is down the list somewhere. Energy and the hunt to grab up the last pumpable oil will be the catalyst to some troubling economic times: inflation breeding inflation, breeding high unemployment and tremendous stresses on a government safety net that won't hold. It's going to get uglier than you guys in you 50's have ever seen.

And that's the good news. The bad news is that this race for energy to keep bad economies from turning into abysmal economies will make the odds for a major global confilct over energy access more likely than not.

Don't get me wrong, we'll be able to muddle through the next ten years or so. But, things will really heat up in 10 years, and the decade from 2015 to 2025 will be, well, interesting. And just so you have a reference for how fast a decade flies, Bill Clinton was running for re-election 10 years ago.

I can understand the logic of "Gettin' your share while the gettin' is good," but the kids are not going to think too highly of us. We can blame it on the politicians or the bad guys in Asia for taking 'our' oil, but that won't change anything.

Nothing short of a trillions of dollars, Apollo-scale program, begun 5 years ago, would have smoothed out some of the rough times. Alas, we're too late. The kids will have to figure it out.

And just for the record, I'm an economic optimist. You should hear what the pessimists say.

Are "the kids" up to it? American kids of the baby boomers are prolly the most spoiled, regimented and programmed generation of all time. Will this generation be able to cope with their world blowing up?

lazs2 · « **Reply #48 on:** March 31, 2005, 02:28:53 PM »

far as anyone knows... every drop of water that was ever on the planet is still here and.... has been through some animal at one time or another.

How's that for "informed opinion"?

lazs

Skuzzy · « **Reply #49 on:** March 31, 2005, 02:33:57 PM »

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Originally posted by JB88
simply agree that something more proactive should be done about managing and creating resources and state it publicly. the market will follow.

informed opinion creates ripples and causes action when spoken.

ROFLMBO! This has to be some of the funniest stuff I have read in a while. Good one 88!

JB88 · « **Reply #50 on:** March 31, 2005, 02:49:11 PM »

i knew you had a sense of humor skuzzy, but i never thought id see you LYBO...

my work here is done.

NOT!

lol

Skuzzy · « **Reply #51 on:** March 31, 2005, 02:50:10 PM »

You have never seen me in the game then.

JB88 · « **Reply #52 on:** March 31, 2005, 02:55:01 PM »

oh, i am sure that i have been shot down by you on a great many occasions skuzzy...or should i say...AUNTBEE!!!!

Skuzzy · « **Reply #53 on:** March 31, 2005, 02:59:36 PM »

Not hardly. I do not use shades accounts. No reason for me to.

JB88 · « **Reply #54 on:** March 31, 2005, 03:02:07 PM »

ive never seen you in the skies, you ever get up anymore or too busy?

Skuzzy · « **Reply #55 on:** March 31, 2005, 03:07:13 PM »

I very rarely fly or play the game. When I enter the arena I normally have a bazillion questions tossed at me, so I try to answer them.
But I try to keep things light when I am in the arena.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #56 on:** March 31, 2005, 03:09:41 PM »

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Originally posted by JB88
are you reffering to chaos theory 73? where is holden when you need him?

entropy would probably be a good model for what skuzzy is talking about...

Sorry JB88, I was at march madness trying to decide between Salma Hayek and Jennifer Connolly... futility defined.

Entropy is not a theory, it is a measureable thermodynamic property. It tends to increase. It is the property 73 and Scuzzy are looking for. Things tend to go from order to disorder, ie. entropy increases.

JB88 · « **Reply #57 on:** March 31, 2005, 03:10:24 PM »

a shame. a shades account would be pretty understandable in that case.

the new clouds rock lobster.

bustr · « **Reply #58 on:** March 31, 2005, 03:12:03 PM »

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Originally posted by JB88
simply agree that something more proactive should be done about managing and creating resources and state it publicly. the market will follow.

informed opinion creates ripples and causes action when spoken.

So if I don't agree, what will you label me to identify my obvious lack of mental enlightenment from the more malleable sheep you wish to stampeed? How easy it is to lead people with "simply agree with me". Sounds like you are testing the waters for a run at the White House with Billary in 2008. Sould we start making out our tax cheques to the UN World Enlightenment Fund care of JB88 this April?

JB88 · « **Reply #59 on:** March 31, 2005, 03:16:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Sorry JB88, I was at march madness trying to decide between Salma Hayek and Jennifer Connolly... futility defined.

Entropy is not a theory, it is a measureable thermodynamic property. It tends to increase. It is the property 73 and Scuzzy are looking for. Things tend to go from order to disorder, ie. entropy increases.

yes, it does increase doesnt it.

when i think of entropy, i think "heat death" and thus my mind strung that into the notion of the eventual dimming of the human resouce flame.

i make no claims to scientific wisdom or knowledge. though reading about it years ago did inspire a few things.

so was it chaos then?