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Offline rival7

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« on: April 01, 2005, 02:33:22 PM »
HTC can u please give the dueling arena an option for us to gain perkies and rank, just like the Main Arena. Main Arena gets a little ridiculous sometimes with all the Head On's and so many other reasons that i would have to sit dwn and make a list of. As for Dueling arena, some of us like to go in there and do some god old fashion 1 vs 1 dogfights. it's also cool to know who could be the constant ringleader. just a request......
and that's what would make this game fun to me.thank you

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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2005, 02:39:17 PM »
That would be alot of fun having Perks and ranks in there!


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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2005, 04:25:16 PM »
All planes are free...what do you get with perks?

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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2005, 04:40:01 PM »
I personally like the idea of disabling HO's in the DA. It's meant to test your ACM skills more so than your jousting skills. Would also solve the problem with 2 guys going in there over an argument. Typically one of the tough guys loses and cries HO. Basically if you died in there, you couldn't say you was HOed. Also against equal pilots you will meet on top of your merge a lot of the time and some will take that shot since it isn't the 1st merge. Just my opinion:D
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2005, 03:09:19 AM »
just as well as things change with the ENY in the MA then why not bend the DA to having point scales to DUEL things out as is it is called the DUELING ARENA

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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2005, 10:55:18 PM »
Guys, HOs are very easy to avoid.  I'm not particularly good at AH yet, but I am consistently able to avoid them.  If I can do it, so can you.  Search the boards for suggestions on how to do this, as there are numerous techniques.  

Making them illegal is completely unnecessary, and would be (here's that word again) "unrealistic".

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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2005, 11:35:18 PM »
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Guys, HOs are very easy to avoid.  I'm not particularly good at AH yet, but I am consistently able to avoid them.  If I can do it, so can you.  Search the boards for suggestions on how to do this, as there are numerous techniques.  

Making them illegal is completely unnecessary, and would be (here's that word again) "unrealistic".


The "HO" I'm referring to isn't off the merge, that's very easy to avoid. It's when you've done an immelman or 2 and end up near a stall face to face with your opponent. Most you fight won't take that shot, but some will(espeically if your POed at the guy from an arguement in the MA). By disabling HOs in there, it would force you to at least get a hi deflection shot to get hits. If you like we can try it in the DA. 1st merge is guns cold, then see if you can manuever outta the way of a HO shot w/o giving up position and losing. Against the good pilots you can't, because the second they gain a slight advantage, it's over.

PS: Realism has nothing to do with this request. Like it's been said many times before, if this game was "realistic" a spit wouldn't be fighting a P51 and B24's wouldn't be dive bombing.
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2005, 03:26:52 AM »
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Guys, HOs are very easy to avoid. I'm not particularly good at AH yet, but I am consistently able to avoid them. If I can do it, so can you. Search the boards for suggestions on how to do this, as there are numerous techniques.



  I used to try avoiding them for a long time and I usually came out about 50 50 on avoidance sometimes they would miss sometimes they would take my tail off.
  Reasently I started taking on the HOer's and found that if I had a really steady hand I survive 80 to 90% of the time.

  Oh and also I just started flying the YAK-9T and you would be amazed at the # of people that will try to HO a YAK. My advice is don't do it, with that 37mil in the nose most of the guys that try to HO me die quickly.
  I am not a supporter of the HO but for the most part if someone trys it I will return the favor. :D
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2005, 07:52:23 AM »
Right now the dueling arena (DA) is more of a training arena where planes can get shot down.  Dueling can proceed but more and more people stay on the same side and shoot each other with some level of protocol.  Personally,  I would love to see something like a FighterTown arena of AW3 where rank is recorded.  However, it was never that popular then and I don't expect human nature to change.  

Allowing rank in the DA would not add value to its use as an advanced training arena/DA.  It's good to see the arena get some use.   Not many people want to fly 5 min for a duel.  


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p.s.  My only suggestion would be to reduce the distance between some fields in a few areas of the map to allow less time between different country fights.  However, that involves changing the map which  takes time.

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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2005, 12:00:05 PM »
STANTOND i understand what u are saying but there is a TRAINING ARENA so that throws what u said out the window.
the key phrase i'm talking about is THE DUELING ARENA. people r SOOO interested in being the KOTH (King Of The Hill) that i'm thinking if we get a point or rank scale in the DA. not changing the maps nor disabling ho's (not tryin to cut anyone short). just leaving the settings the way it is. cause seriously if u want to do a serious battle 1 on 1 up NE SE runway and go 6K merge no ho's on first pass, which is AMI RIGHT?? what everyone has been doin the whole time???train in the DA also, and with a point scale that can also rollover from the MA or if it's separated, it doesn't matter. i just figured u guyz would think it was beneficial that way to rip someone to shreds and stil get paid for it, lol

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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2005, 03:57:29 PM »
Superdud,

You have an unusual definition of HO, in my opinion.  In any case, what difference does it make if they shoot you from the front, side, or rear when you are at the top of an immelman?  If you are moving slowly (which I assume is what you are talking about here), you are equally easy to hit from any angle.  

Also, when I mentioned "unrealistic", I didn't mean to imply that everything in AH was or should be as in real life (that's why it's in quotes).  However, that doesn't mean we should deliberately make AH less realistic in arbitrary ways.  It would seem to be arbitrary to build into the game a prohibition against HOs, as they figure in many combat accounts from WWII.  

Rival7:

I vaguely remember the existence of something called the "dueling ladder" (search the boards).  Wouldn't this meet your goal?

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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2005, 10:21:56 PM »
have enlisted sir....but that's not what i'm sayin. SINCE we all have to pay for something other than H2H, which for u know who's sake, the settings in their could never be right, but hey!! it's free why argue,RIGHT??? As for dueling arena, We all pay so the simple request of point scales should never be over looked. u can argue all day with me about it, but alot of people agree with what i'm sayin. i mean, c'mon guys, HTC told someone before that   if they hadn't gotten rid of nights then they could lose customers. WELL SPECIFICALLY, i won't quit, but grant me, excuse me, US the simple request of that matter
yes dueling ladder interests me and am beginning to understand how that works.

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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2005, 11:29:02 PM »
I thought the dueling ladder looked interesting as well, but I wanted to get a better at the game first.  I'm too easy right now.  

(Shane was giving me some pointers, but he hasn't been around lately...).

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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2005, 03:45:47 AM »
Rather then scoores have a built in ladder.

Scoores will only lead to stathoing. We dont need more stathos, especially not in the DA.

Perks? Why? All planes SHOULD be free in DA as its a  "training arena".

Disabling HOs is a bad idea as well. One has to learn to avoid HOs, in the DA its even easier then in the MA and one has to practice it.

If someone goes for a HO on me in the DA, awsome!!!

He will miss and he will loose vertical position and I will have an advantage on him.

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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2005, 08:54:32 AM »
i agree with deacon here guys.

if u all quit moaning about changing the flight rules and stuff (takes a long time), HTC dont have time to change things in the game that are important. the set works how it is, and i think we should concentrate on new planes and maps more.

so come on, quit whining about HO's, if they hit u, tough luck, its ure fault. it may be dishonorable, but thats their mistake, and u need to learn to avoid it. if u cant, quit making out that ure a good pilot, and go back to the TA!!!!