I need information on B17g '2nd patches'

[Sp4de]

Please:D i need ALOT there is not to much. need every detail about it. even the number of teeth it had:lol

Thank you
- Spade

[Guppy35]

Best I can do so far

Dan/CorkyJr

[Sp4de]

Thanks guppy:)  if theres a b17 you want skinned id be glad to do it instead of this one.. youve always been there to help the skinners out Thank you

[SELECTOR]

i think it crashed low on fuel comming back from kessel..crashing at boxted..it was canablised for spares..

the problem was there was a strong tail wind to target and very stronge head wind comming home.. quite a few ran out of fuel and dithched in channel..

[Sp4de]

heard alot of stories. heard one that they crashed on take off

[DaddyAck]

Question? How do you put a picture in your post? every time I have tried it did not work???

[rogerdee]

daddyack  you need to join something like picture hanger you upload your picture to them then use a link to  get it on here

picture hanger

rgerdee

[o0Stream140o]

Originally posted by Guppy35
Best I can do so far

Dan/CorkyJr

I"ll have to use that picture... and find out how the two escorting P-51's are.  It's a great picture Guppy

By the way Guppy, not trying to high jack this thread, I am looking for pictures of the 325th launching off the USS Ranger in there P-40E or F's.  It was before they had the checkertail tail fin. I have a video of it, but you can't make out the serial numbers.  I wonder if you have anything on that, or have access to find it.

[Cobra412]

From what I've found from researching these particular mustangs is they belong to the 319th FS.

Aircraft No. 73 is USAAF S/N 42-103443, Plane Name: Margaret, Pilots: Edwin L. Williams (1 Kill in a Mustang) and Howard F. Welch. Salvaged 9-2-45.

Aircraft No. 87 is USAAF S/N 43-24852, Plane Name: Gravel Gertie/Delightful Dee, Pilot: Jack H. Bond (4 Kills in a Mustang). MIA 10-12-44.

[Sp4de]

found this.
Any information on the exact color? and is that bare metal or alluminum on tail?
thanks -Spade

[o0Stream140o]

Originally posted by Cobra412
From what I've found from researching these particular mustangs is they belong to the 319th FS.

Aircraft No. 73 is USAAF S/N 42-103443, Plane Name: Margaret, Pilots: Edwin L. Williams (1 Kill in a Mustang) and Howard F. Welch. Salvaged 9-2-45.

Aircraft No. 87 is USAAF S/N 43-24852, Plane Name: Gravel Gertie/Delightful Dee, Pilot: Jack H. Bond (4 Kills in a Mustang). MIA 10-12-44.

I sent off an email to Mr. Fiedler and this is what he said.

Squadron numbers are as follows:  10 - 39   317th
                                         40 - 69   318th
                                         70 - 99`  319th
There are modifications however.  In the 317th we used some numbers lower than 10; e.g., 5,7,8,9.  I think there were others also like 2 and 3??
These pictures are taken on the mission to Russia called Frantic from 2 to 11 June 1944.  As you can see, they are from the 319th and #73 was flown by 2nd Lt Howard F. Welch and #87 was flown by 1/Lt Arthur C. Albin.
Those are excellent pictures and are the best I have seen to date.  Usually one can see the birds but the numbers were difficult to make out.
Hope the above helps,
Cordially,  Art

Sorry spade didn't mean to highjack.  

[Cobra412]

Stream wouldn't surprise me if another crew was flying either aircraft. These were the crews assigned to those aircraft.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by o0Stream140o
I"ll have to use that picture... and find out how the two escorting P-51's are.  It's a great picture Guppy

By the way Guppy, not trying to high jack this thread, I am looking for pictures of the 325th launching off the USS Ranger in there P-40E or F's.  It was before they had the checkertail tail fin. I have a video of it, but you can't make out the serial numbers.  I wonder if you have anything on that, or have access to find it.

Only thing I could find so far.  P40Fs launching from USS Ranger  January 19, 1943 from the 325th FG.  It was a small photo in a P40 book so I couldn't blow it up much.  Can't read a serial number on the lead bird or the nose art.

I'll keep looking

Dan/CorkyJr

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Sp4de

found this.
Any information on the exact color? and is that bare metal or alluminum on tail?
thanks -Spade

The tail was a replacement tail in natural metal as was the crew door and a panal under the right wing.

OD/Gray otherwise

Dan/CorkyJr