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Offline bustr

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Does anyone have a similare problem?
« on: April 04, 2005, 03:33:53 PM »
I stopped using IE because of all the spyware\malware\trojans that kept hijacking my system. But! I have Mcafee and it won't allow me to perform updates with FireFox. So it opens IE for me and begins the update. Everytime the update is for Mcafee's Anti Spyware module, it infects my system with a hijack that kills my ping time to the AH game server.

I keep 6 other anti spyware applications updated just to catch Mcafee's little payload. And it's a different one every time. Does anyone catch traditional viruses anymore? Or is it all these hijacks that take advantage of IE? I'm begining to wonder if Mcafee even knows whats happening. Mcafee's antispyware module has never detected these hijacks after it updates itself. The arena menu in AH lets me know when I have one. My ping goes up from 63 to 140-170.

I will be getting rid of Mcafee, are there any Antivirus\Spyware products that actually work out there? I though changing to FireFox would save me from this. I didn't count on Mcafee screwing me.

By the way, last nights Mcafee update loaded me up with something so nasty, nothing I have can detect it. I have about 12 apps now including Microsofts new one that I installed last night out of frustration.  AH let me know I had it at the arena menu, my ping was 145. I had to roll my XP back 1 day to turn the hijack off. I need something that can first detect it, then kill it.
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2005, 03:37:49 PM »
For the lub of all that is coad!  Why don't you just adjust the security settings in IE?

What is it with people?  Everyone want to bash MS so bad they simply ignore the tools (what few we have) at your own fingertips?

Sorry bustr,..nothing personal.  It's not you.

Tools->Internet options
Adjust the security settings for the "Internet' zone to the highest possible, then manually adjust them tighter.  McAfee update will not work anymore after that (I already sent them a nasty email about the security problems involved in using ActiveX for their updates.  They do not seem to care).
Intuit updates will also break (another bunch of ActiveX idiots).
« Last Edit: April 04, 2005, 03:40:47 PM by Skuzzy »
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2005, 03:40:54 PM »
That MS anti spyware beta thingy is awesome.

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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2005, 03:45:25 PM »
bustr, I was having many problems with hijacker/spyware on puter, had Norten and it would not detect it or kill it, downloaded AVG for free and it picked it out and killed it.  SO I dumped nortan like an uguly chick on a sunday moring.

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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2005, 03:46:21 PM »
Skuzzy,

None taken, I think I downloaded a script that locks IE down as you have discussed before. If you are inclined though please repost your lockdown method for IE. I use FireFox and find it works better than IE. It just pisses me off that McAfee is requiring IE for auto updates. I'm hoping to find some other filter application to replace it that does not require IE for definition updates. I need to get rid of the current hijack, it hid itself quite well. No footprints that I can find.
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2005, 04:00:41 PM »
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bustr, I was having many problems with hijacker/spyware on puter, had Norten and it would not detect it or kill it, downloaded AVG for free and it picked it out and killed it.  SO I dumped nortan like an uguly chick on a sunday moring.


What is AVG?
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2005, 04:02:02 PM »
Grab Adaware (not Adware) from Lavasoft (Google it).  Install Adaware, run it and let it update its defination files, then run a scan.
Reboot to safe mode (pressing F8 while Windows starts to boot), run Adaware again to let it finish cleaning up.

Now, unplug your computer from the Internet (physically bust the connection).  Start Windows up, start up IE.

Under Tools, then Internet Options, you will find a tab named 'Security'.  Each of the ICONS represent zones.  The 'Internet' zone is the security settings for the Internet.
Press the 'Cutstom' settings button and look at them.  If they smack of downloading, installing, updating, active anything, then disable it.

Pay particular attention to ActiveX, Java, scripting, and downloads in general.

If you have a question about a particular setting then ask.

Once you have them all adjusted, plug back into the Internet and you should be fine.  Now, if you want to use the MS Updater, you will need to add *.microsoft.com to your trusted sites list.
Select the 'Trusted' zone, then type in

*.microsoft.com

Press the 'Add Site' button and your updates from MS will work.  You can do the same for our site too *.hitechcreations.com and so on.

By the way, make sure you have all the security updates from the MS updater.
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2005, 04:08:18 PM »
my ISP (earthlink) catches most hacks and e-mails me with what they stopped, and what they miss (very few) McAfee gets, i have auto updates turned off.

i also turn off virus scan when in AH.

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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2005, 04:13:34 PM »
Thank you Skuzzy......:)
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2005, 04:18:09 PM »
All of these are free to home users.....

Warning Avoid Spyhunter it is spyware itself.  Loads a spy program on your system and then wants you to pay them to remove it!

FREE to home users.........


AdAware

http://lavasoft.element5.com/software/adaware/

AntiVir ... best free anti virus I've found! removes stuff everything else has missed!

http://www.free-av.com/

Very good FREE software firewall

http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/home.jsp


Might wanna look here for SpywareBlaster and SpywareGuard and Spybot S&D  and other goodies ... also FREE.......

http://www.majorgeeks.com/
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2005, 04:41:14 PM »
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Originally posted by NUKE
That MS anti spyware beta thingy is awesome.


I'm with you here, i tested many, MS anti spyware beta is awesome.
The statement below is true.
The statement above is false.

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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2005, 04:47:16 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2005, 04:50:49 PM »
ran ad-aware, it found 141 data miners, other than track my internet moves what harm do they do? i quarentied them btw.

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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2005, 05:47:18 PM »
Its not just that they track your internet moves, those types of programs can also record when you enter passwords, credit card data, etc.  But beyond security concerns, they really F up your internet connection when you do online gaming.  Those things send updates out to whoever planted them, thats eating up your bandwidth.  Its also eating up your CPU time.

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Re: Does anyone have a similare problem?
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2005, 05:53:58 PM »
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Originally posted by bustr
“Does anyone have a similare problem?”


Yea, I can’t spell simeler either.

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