How do you do it?

[Morpheus]

One thing that's improved my k/D alot is bailing out, even after being shot out of the sky a capture or successful bail isn't a death. If I'm shot to hell and being chased; bail. If I'm out numbered and it looks like I can't run; bail. Someone gets a cheap proxy kill and I don't get a needless death.

This is wrong in so many ways.

Let me just say one thing.

Newbs like you, saying the kind of crap you just said, makes me realize why there aren't as many "good" fights anymore as there used to be.

No. Not because you bail out when being chased. (btw, a proxie kill is still a kill and it still hurts your presious score.)Bailing out like that will do nothing to improve your ability as a player. Guys like you should fly C47s and resuply my base. Or fly a bomber at 35k and be alone in the clouds where no one will bother to come shoot you down.

Your statement tells me one thing. You have no will to learn. When I say learn I mean become a better stick. Become more capable in fighters... Furthermore, why the hell do you even play the game if you are going to pull that kind of crap? This sort of "runaway with your one life to live" mentality is growing ever stronger these days. Sad...

Is it dying that you dont like?(obviously) The absolute only way you are going to get better in this game is to make mistakes and die, die alot, and in the end, hopefuly when you assess your deaths/mistakes you learn from them.

Some chump bailing out because hes about to be out numberd or is in a bad place, is just that... A Chump.

But good for you I guess. I'm sure you've learned a whole lot more than me in your three months here. What the hell do I know anyways.

[SirLoin]

If you really want to learn how to get to the next level in ACM..stay away from MA and fly as much as you can in the DA.

Always film on so you can replay and learn(and steal moves)

Learn to Double Immel

Learn to rope

Learn correct merge speed in a HurriC

etc..

My point is you'll learn a lot more,a lot faster flying DA with someone who is a better stik than if you tool around in MA flying 190doras worrying about your K/D

and you'll have more fun in the MA as well with your improved acm.

Redd
Nomak
Bigmax
Sniper
Urchin

any of those guys will not only hand you ur prettythang...they'll ease the pain by helpin ya out afterwards.

[ALF]

In the MA, skill has much less to do with KD ratio than insane patience and flying a fast plane.  Unlike real life, there are pleanty of people in the MA that will chase you down to kill you....even if it means certain death to them......

[mars01]

In the MA, skill has much less to do with KD ratio than insane patience and flying a fast plane. Unlike real life, there are pleanty of people in the MA that will chase you down to kill you....even if it means certain death to them......

To a certain degree Alf, but if thats skill than what do you call the guys that fly around in the slow stuff on the deck that usually make it home with scalps?

[Shane]

Originally posted by mars01
what do you call the guys that fly around in the slow stuff on the deck that usually make it home with scalps?

hordemonkeys, albeit skilled ones.

[mars01]

LOL, you mean Horde Bait hahahaha:D

[iKo]

Originally posted by Schaden
Try to use the game as a simulation of what happened 60 years ago so that in some small way they might have a taste of what it was like for those pilots who had to live through it for real.

Ok so Try This than

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by iKo
Ok so Try This than

Very Kewl!:cool:

[kj714]

Before everybody piles on Marine, he's bailing thinking it helps his k/d score.

I think there's a thread in here somewhere that HT explained that anything other than a successful landing actually dings you on the k/d ratio. Maybe I'm wrong, but I could swear I remember that.

Just misinformed is all, I think, but it's an easy mistake to make.  I think a less confusing but correct term would be "kills/failure to RTB", but that's not very glamorous is it? Once again, maybe I'm wrong but I really think HT said it like that once.

Thanks for the thoughts, several people I think of as good pilots have contributed.

[mechanic]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Alternatively, if you want a high K/D just fly a Tempest.

I think before I started getting bored and flying into bad odds in one last tour, my max K/D ratio in the Tempest was 50:1 (and K/S of 9:1).  That wasn't any kind of amazing or special flying; I have no doubt anybody else could put up the same numbers in the plane if they put their mind to it.  It really is that good.

-- Todd/Leviathn

hehehe, that 50:1 wouldnt happen to be fom a hoing little bastige IL2 would it?

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by mechanic
hehehe, that 50:1 wouldnt happen to be fom a hoing little bastige IL2 would it?

Nah, that was way, way late in the game where one death had almost no effect on my K/D ratio.  Mostly five inch guns played havoc with that 50:1, but it's all good.  Can't say I can complain about the final tally.  

-- Todd/Leviathn

[DamnedRen]

Originally posted by Guppy35
I kept going back in and kept dying, but if I'm going to get better, taking a chance against the best has to help a little.  

You might find it more beneficial to get some tactical training. Most often going up against someone and dying doesn't really tell you what you are doing wrong or what he is doing right. All you know is he managed to somehow get around on you for a shot. You may never know why he's doing it until you learn tactics.

[mechanic]

screw tactics just get your nose pointed at him at short range as fast you can

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by Schaden
People play this game for a variety of reasons, some, knowing that they will never be able to experience WW2 fighter combat try to use the game as a simulation of what happened 60 years ago so that in some small way they might have a taste of what it was like for those pilots who had to live through it for real.

My death is not something I give away lightly, I try to kill and survive, I try to use actual tactics from WW2, I probably spend far too much time and money on books about WW2 aircraft and the men that flew them.

If you think the epitome of skill is flopping around the DA at zero feet in a Spit V and all you can do is kill, die, kill, die, kill die ad nauseam fine, not very bright, no sense of history, lacking empathy gamey little bottom feeders....not for me.

My sentiments exactly...

To put this in another, gentler perspective. Flying in as realistic a way as the 'game' allows requires you fly intellegently. While I have much respect for the Levi's of our little world in his Spit V killing them does not involve out-smarting them usually. Killing someone who chooses not to fly smart/realistically simply requires you catch them unaware if possible, out-fly them innately or by virtue of plane match-up, have good aim and get a good snap-shot in, or gang-bang them. However, if you kill someone like myself who devotes much time, energy and thought to flying as realistically/intellegently as possible you have not only out-flown me and/or out-gunnery'ed me, but you have out-witted me, not quite such an easy task.

I would never suggest one way is better than another, and there is always a constant compromise between flying smart and maximizing your killing effectiveness per unit time invested in the game as some have alluded to, that is part of your overall SA. There are times I will happily engage 1 vs. 5, it's just a matter of weighing the variables as they will likely effect the outcome and flying in an intelligent manner, that is knowing how to exploit your plane to its maximum advantage and knowing when to egress, discretion being the better part of valor...

Apart from my penchant for realism and history of WW2 Air combat the biggest factor that influeces the way I fly is AW. In AW there was a message in the text buffer when someone shot you down and that person that shot you down had you on his 'recent kills list' and you had them on your 'who killed you last' box. It became a game unto itself to see how long in a camp I could go with noone in my 'who killed you last' box on my scorecard. When people killed me they knew they had achieved something few ever did, there are people I flew against for ten years that lusted after my pelt but never got it (and not thru lack of effort, they just never out-smarted me), adding sweetness to my killing of them over and over...That is to say while 'ass in the grass' 'duck n' weave' is short-term fun, no doubt, there is some very real long-term satisfaction in being not only an effective killer but an ultra-rare bird to knock down as well.

Zazen

[killnu]

My sentiments exactly...

i didnt see anything about sitting in an ostie in that post?!:confused: